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It's that time again (lemmy.dbzer0.com)

submitted 1 day ago by Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world

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Cross-posted from "It's that time again" by @Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com in !linux_memes@programming.dev

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[–] Decq@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago

This is why I stopped using Gnome. After every update most of my extensions stopped working. Some took ages to get up to date or were abandoned. And there was no simple way to enable all extensions that the update disabled, having to manually enable them one by one. Maybe that has changed now? It's been yearsnow... Not that I would go back anyway, tiling managers is where it's at.

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

GNOME is great but people recommending it to beginners need to make it clear that there is only minor customization, and that major customization / extensions will cause headaches.

Plasma is highly customizable out of the box. It's personal preference in the end of course.

[–] somerandomperson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Then, after that, you can introduce them to Hyprland which is EVEN MORE customizable, at the cost of learning the hyprlang and jsonc if you also want waybar.

[–] banause@feddit.org 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

And then there is sway. Which makes you cry but respected.

[–] somerandomperson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Isn't sway more limited in customization compared to hyprland?

(i know that swayfx is for that, but still not sure if it'a as good)

[–] banause@feddit.org 1 points 1 hour ago

Yeah, probably true. It was a lighthearted joke, I do not know too much about sway or hyperland.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

At this point, what did you expect to happen?

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

It's your own fault you use GNOME

[–] Johnny101@lemmy.world 10 points 17 hours ago

Which is why Plasma is better

[–] DiabolicalBird@lemmy.ca 4 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

We all got choices, that's what I like about Linux. KDE seems to run great for most people, for me it always seems to bug out and act super janky (the panel editor in particular would bug out and crash constantly, I could never get the damn thing to where I liked it). If it was more stable for me I'd probably use it, I love customizing my system. I've tried making it work a few times, never seems to click.

GNOME's extensions may break on updates from time to time but my day to day experience with it is much nicer. While more rigid it's a lot more polished and doesn't crash out on me just using the interface. I like the layout of it. I'm glad KDE works for so many of you guys, but I'll stick with GNOME until a better option comes around.

That said, if anyone has a better suggestion for a desktop environment I'm all ears.

[–] BurgerBaron@piefed.social 1 points 56 minutes ago

I just don't customise very much, either DE mentioned. I did initially when I was new to using Linux out of novelty, but I noticed stuff breaks the more I deviated from the norm after enough updates. Plus it's such a timesink to begin with. I realised I just wanted to use the fucking computer, not tinker and fight it.

KDE on my office desktop. I like one of the themes CachyOS ships with so I left it at that.

GNOME on the living room PC hooked up to a TV. I think it works better there controlled by a wireless trackpad keyboard from the couch and for purely entertainment purposes. Stremio, web browsing, and gaming.

[–] Zanshi@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Kinda same, but I would also always tinker with Plasma endlessly customising every little bit, installed applets and widgets to check if they're better than what I'm currently using. It got tiresome, but I just couldn't stop myself. After a while I installed Gnome and just embraced the simplicity.

[–] rozodru@piefed.social 59 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The other week had a GNOME dev reply to a thread of mine on mastodon stating that the users desire to select a default terminal emulator was an "edge case" and it was beneath GNOME. then all the GNOME fanboys came out to his defense.

It's an insufferable DE and community.

[–] Hubi@feddit.org 2 points 8 hours ago

Such a GNOME thing to say

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

As insufferable as KDE users always shitting on gnome?

I've generally found gnome users just use it. New KDE releases don't have gnome fanboys bashing it, etc.

But new GNOME releases? Directly the opposite.

Really wish people would just chill.

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 47 minutes ago

New KDE releases don't have gnome fanboys bashing it

There is a lot less hate for KDE… Because KDE doesn’t break the user experience every time it updates. Gnome is the Apple of the Linux world. The entire dev team embodies the Apple attitude of “we know better than you, and you’re wrong for wanting to use anything except the default settings.”

You’re essentially getting the “iPhone user seeing all of the hate from android users every time iOS updates” experience. Because every time a new iPhone feature comes out, all of the android users go “lmao iOS didn’t have that feature until now? Android had it three years ago. Apple fucking sucks.”

[–] pool_spray_098@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I find that Penis Stroker 2000 never has users bashing it when a new release comes out.

But every single new release of Scrotum Puncher 5000 that comes out, it's getting criticized. I'm sick of it!!

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago

Yeah, there is way less hate and mockery towards KDE. Now let's think why that might be

[–] kadu@scribe.disroot.org 7 points 1 day ago

I've generally found gnome users just use it

lol

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

As insufferable as KDE users always shitting on gnome?

This 100%

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[–] joyjoy@lemmy.zip 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Same with Manjaro and the AUR.

[–] idefix@sh.itjust.works 1 points 15 hours ago

So you have an example? It never happened to me the last 7 years.

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 164 points 1 day ago (24 children)

Just use KDE Plasma

[–] FishFace@lemmy.world 55 points 1 day ago

This is what I concluded in the end...

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 22 hours ago

Kubuntu FTW!!!!

[–] Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I do at home, can't choose at work (but we keep pushing the people in charge)

[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I heard of imposing operating systems (which I'm also against*), but never specific distros or DEs.

* at least for technical people who know what they're doing and wont spam the IT support

[–] Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 15 hours ago

My company started enforcing Macs this year but as a special exception they'll let us use Windows or Ubuntu. No other distro and the CTO must still authorize it.

The reason? Meet some vague security guidelines that the PR team wants us to be able to say we meet, by forcing us to run a spying agent to ensure our OS is up-to-date so I'm not vulnerable to leaking data I don't even have access to. But the tool doesn't support anything that updates frequently.

I had just built a brand new laptop for work and I refused to sully it with Ubuntu so I installed it on an old desktop and just been putting zero effort into fixing Ubuntu shit. Wifi often can't handle meetings, none of my cameras worked ootb - also can't go to the office anymore since I can't carry the desktop there.

Still a year away from being able to request the company buys me a machine again (last time there were no conditions for it) - but I don't intend to stay here until then.

[–] menemen@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

If it is a larger company that defintly would make maintenance easier.

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[–] Best_Jeanist@discuss.online 41 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I don't use gnome because I don't think a desktop use interface should be designed for iPads

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 day ago

I've got Gnome installed on a tablet PC. It's not good there, either.

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[–] umbraroze@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 day ago

Dunno, I saw GNOME 3 run like molasses on my PC, went "ok, this might be lost cause", went with LXDE and then XFCE, and now I'm like "if it's a beefy proper PC I'll go with KDEPlasma and if it's, like, very obsolete system I'll, dunno, go with XFCE".

GNOME is just opinionated. I get it, it was kinda vaguely modeled after Mac OS, which is kinda an opinionated desktop environment, but the thing is, it's even more opinionated than Mac OS ever was. The thing about (early!) Mac OS X was "hey, we have this slick desktop environment but also some power user features you might want to use. But we're not forcing you to!" (Kinda like GNOME 2!) ...GNOME has been kinda sweeping those under the rug, in my opinion.

[–] ibot@feddit.org 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think Gnome is the most beautyful Desktop out there. But it's UX drives me crazy. I tried it a few times but never could get used to it. I always needed extensions to customize it to my needs. But that's also what I want to avoid because extensions might break in the future. Therefore, Gnome is simply not the right Desktop for me.

But I'm happy for everyone who likes to use Gnome. The great thing about Linux: We have a choice!

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[–] ampy@discuss.online 50 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I like how GNOME looks and functions for the most part, but I really wish the world provide more options instead of whatever design philosophy they think needs enforced.

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[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 6 points 23 hours ago

There is literally one working todo thingy extension for GNOME. KDE has one included.

[–] nomadjoanne@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago

Yeah I very much like dislike the culture of Gnome... maybe I'll try something else someday. KDE isn't for me but Cosmic maybe.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

There are so many things the Linux kernel project does just right. One of them is "never break user space".
Unfortunately most projects completely fail to get why this is important.
I think one of the worst examples is the enormous setback it caused when Python was "upgraded" from 2 to 3, which meant breakage of huge amounts of libraries, that were never fixed, and was extremely detrimental to Python.

The kernel respects user-space, but actual user front ends do not!?!?!
KDE generally does the same when they upgrade to new versions of QT.

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