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[–] LemmyBeGood@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 3 hours ago

That’s probably why they are banning people left and right to control the content they want to put out.

[–] Aljernon@lemmy.today 4 points 8 hours ago

Reddit be a mess, yall

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 57 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

The fact that any AI company thought to train their LLM on the answers of Reddit users speaks to a fundamental misunderstanding of their own product (IMO)

LLMs aren't programmed to give you the correct answer. They're programmed to give you the most pervasive/popular answer on the assumption that most of the time that will also happen to be the right one.

So when you're getting your knowledge base from random jackasses on Reddit, where a good faith question like "What's the best way to get get gum out of my childs hair" get's two two good faith answers, and then a few dozen smart-ass answers that gets lots of replies and upvotes because they're funny. Guess which one your LLM is going to use.

People (and apparently even the creators themselves) think that an LLM is actually cognizent enough to be able to weed this out logically. But it can't. It's not an intelligence...it's a knowlege agreggator. And as with any aggregator, the same rule applies

garbage in, garbage out

[–] SuperEars@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

"How do I parallel park a car?"

AI Overview: "git gud"

[–] mcv@lemmy.zip 10 points 8 hours ago

The main thing that AI has shown, is how much bullshit we subconsciously filter through every day without much effort. (Although clearly some people struggle a lot more with distinguishing between bullshit and fact, considering how much politicized nonsense has taken hold.)

[–] dil@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 hours ago

Usually the third/fifth comment down is correct while the top 4 are jokes

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 20 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

Thats why I have stopped calling it ai. Its a dumbass buzzword just like cloud, that tech bros like to use but cant explain (or blockchain).

Its llms, and image generators/OCR (which has been around for decades), Using complex markov chains and a fuck ton of graphics cards. NOT AI. NOT AI.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

It is AI, along with a bunch of optimization algorithms, statistical decision trees (probably used in adaptive AI in games), etc. AI is a field in computer science that includes a ton of things many wouldn't consider AI.

Basically, if the solution doesn't come from direct commands but instead comes from some form of learning process, it's probably AI.

It's not "general AI", but it is in the field of AI.

[–] enbipanic@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I would argue we need to go back to Machine Learning.

The field is machine learning, generative machine learning etc.

This rebrand to AI is doing nothing but confusing people and building investor hype

Back? Machine Learning has always been a subfield of artificial intelligence since it all started in the 1950s or so. The end goal is to create general AI, and each field in AI is considered a piece of that puzzle, including LLMs.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 4 points 16 hours ago

I use the term “inference machine”

[–] filcuk@lemmy.zip 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

I've had to start calling it AI because most people don't know what LLMs are, and noone cares to go through the explanation, including myself.
I'm afraid that, as these things go, AI has gained a new meaning by popular use, rather than the original meaning of the acronym.
No point fighting it anymore.

Maybe we just need to adjust and start saying GAI (generative ai). It has a nice ring to it too.

[–] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 8 hours ago

It's always been like that, even since the 1950s...

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 15 hours ago

If people are so dumb they dont even know what an llm is, they have no business using any "ai" products. Too bad we cant ban dumb people from using tech that will make them dumber.

[–] hayvan@feddit.nl 70 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I don't care about their stock value but the situation fells so weird. So chatgpt refers to reddit less, and that makes reddit stock value fall. This really shows how much of the share value is pure hype and how much of "the economy" is pure manupulation of numbers instead of actual value.

[–] AAA@feddit.org 20 points 1 day ago

That's actually quite easy to explain. Reddits entire monetary value (or at least a very large portion) depends on how relevant it is as platform to mine user interactions - to use as training material for AI.

Reddit getting references less is a sign that the models, or the owning companies, value reddit data less compared to before.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)

How decoupled stocks are from reality or value. It’s bizarre.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Tesla is "larger" than all other car companies combined when they're virtually always "delayed" on actually shipping product. We live in bizarro world. Your livelihood is a single cell in a giant spreadsheet full of completely made-up numbers.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 hours ago

The market can stay fascist longer then you can stay solvent.

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Tesla sells itself as a technology innovation company, but it sells hype.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago

The thing that baffles me on that one is that it doesn’t stand up on its own terms. None of Tesla’s tech in 2025 is ahead of its competitors, and they’ve become so toxic as a brand that most top tier engineers don’t even want to work there.

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[–] r0ertel@lemmy.world 7 points 23 hours ago

You just described most tech stocks.

As Cory Doctrow explains:

the fundamental duty of every CEO of every high-growth tech company: explaining how his company will continue to grow. These growth stories are key, because growth stocks trade at a huge premium relative to the stocks of "mature" companies.

[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 75 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Cassanderer@thelemmy.club 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Keep in mind if the Reddit stock price fell too much some hedge fund vulture would buy up a majority of the stock and then turn it into Nazi town.

[–] bigFab@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Even better then. That's how the mass migration from twitter happened.

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[–] expr@programming.dev 10 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Isn't it already basically Nazi town?

[–] Cassanderer@thelemmy.club 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It is more disaffected people than nazis. At least the places I was at there. The site wide moderation is pretty fucked in favor of powerful interests, including Nazis however. They like to chase off real people that are driving engagement in favor of the legions of influence agents with their bot accounts.

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[–] Ironfist79@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago

Reddit is a parasite that produces nothing of value. The users are the ones keeping the site alive.

[–] devolution@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] nieceandtows@programming.dev 45 points 1 day ago (1 children)

News about short term falls are just click bait. Just look at Tesla

[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Tesla stock ups and downs seem like someone is literally gaming the system.

[–] jobbies@lemmy.zip 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

the fact that neither Musk nor none of his cronies ever get comeuppance for that tells you everything you need to know about the "fairness" of the "system".

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[–] notgivingmynametoamachine@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Good. Nazi sympathizing shithole deserves nothing but the worst. Fuck spez and every complicit modgoloid and SSAdmin.

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

Modgoloid is great.

[–] etherphon@piefed.world 81 points 1 day ago (41 children)

Wasted 15 years on that site to be banned for one fucking comment, burn baby burn.

[–] HarneyToker@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago

I said that folks would blame the Kirk shooting on trans people. What do you know, I was banned and it actually fucking happened.

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[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago

Downvoted because this isn't news. It's clickbaity nonsense which has no bearing on anything real.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] mrodri89@lemmy.zip 167 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Reddit banned me today for making a joke that the patch title for Guild Wars 2 could match real life events.

What is the patch name? The Mad King and his Lunatic Court.

Permanently banned for what? Harassment.

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[–] calliope@retrolemmy.com 241 points 1 day ago (45 children)

Huh.

Does anyone else think that ChatGPT is still using the data, they’re just not referencing Reddit directly?

This is how you can tell Reddit’s $200+/share price is insane. Over 10% of its value dropped based on a different unprofitable company’s references to ingested content.

Yikes!!

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