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submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) by xylogx@lemmy.world to c/linux@lemmy.ml
 

I am a big fan of Notepad++ in windows and I have been using Notepadqq, a linux clone. Lately though, I have been experiencing more and more crashes and bugs with it. Looking for advice and wisdom. Is there something better? Should I stick it out and try and troubleshoot my problems with Notepadqq?

Edit: Just wanted to thank everyone for all the great advice! I know people can sometimes be territorial and/or religious about their choices here, but people in this thread were helpful and informative, so thank you!

I am trying out Notepad Next but I also installed Notepad++ with Wine. Both seem promising, thanks.

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[–] HouseWolf@pawb.social 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I also used Notepadqq for the first year I used Linux, I ended up switching to Kate since it did everything I liked about Notepad++ and it came installed with my KDE desktop soooo.

Also for the few times I gotta use a terminal text editor I use Micro (It really should be the default instead of Nano)

[–] golden_zealot@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 hours ago

Helix, Kakoune, build Codium from source would be my suggestions.

I use Helix now mainly - I use Codium if I need a graphical editor for something, or one of it's plugins.

At work the systems use VSCode but I use the Dance plugin with Helix bindings to get some of that functionality back.

[–] JAPHacake@feddit.uk 5 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Emacs has entered the chat.

[–] callcc@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

With emacs you don't learn once, nor twice but at least 100 times. but seriously, it's a very nice editor that you either fall for life or not at all.

[–] brax@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Fuck you.

Love,
Neovim

(Just meming, emacs is actually pretty cool tbh and you probably are too.)

[–] techpir8@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Sublime isn't freeware but it also doesn't seem to have any nags if you use it beyond 30 days. Up to your own software morals if you decide to pay the $99 for it or not but it is a rock solid editor and may be worth the money.

[–] groet@feddit.org 2 points 6 hours ago

Absolutely love sublime. Im not entirely sure but if I remember correctly they are perfectly fine with you using it for free as along as you don't use it commercially. I used it for free during university and then at work I just asked if they will buy me a personal license since I am much faster with sublime than without and had all my keybinds and python scrips for automation.

[–] lastweakness@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Zed with all the AI stuff turned off is surprisingly nice

[–] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 4 points 13 hours ago
[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 13 hours ago

What kind of text editing do you do? Coding? Config files? Hard to recommend if we don't know the use case :P

If you want to get into terminal text-editors, I recommend https://helix-editor.com/ . It's modal like vi/vim/neovim etc., but has much easier and more intuitive keybinds, and comes batteries-included and doesn't require extensions.

Downsides: Not fully mature, there's no extension support so not suited for very niche use-cases. And if you ever have to administrate a server through SSH, it will likely only have vim which has different motions and keybinds.

Been using it for 99% of my coding for three ish years, very happy.

[–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 3 points 14 hours ago

Vim!

If you really don't want to then try kwrite for something more simple or kate for a full IDE. There both developed by kde and been around for a while.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago

If push comes to shove, you can still use Notepad++ under Wine. It works.

I use Kate for my editing needs, fast and good regexp work, which is important for me.

[–] juipeltje@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago

I prefer editing in the terminal, but when it comes to gui editors i've heard a lot of good things about kate and geany.

[–] whysofurious@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 15 hours ago

Someone recently recommended me Textadept: https://orbitalquark.github.io/textadept/. Haven't tried it on linux, and I am not really using it, but the interface is clean, it also has a CLI, and I thought I could give you another option :)

[–] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you want a GUI, Kate is my favorite. Otherwise Neovim

[–] xylogx@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I have been using kate a bit and it has been a decent experience so far.

[–] cRazi_man@europe.pub 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Try Kwrite. I've liked it a lot more than Kate.

[–] andrewd18@midwest.social 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

FYI Kate and Kwrite use the same code base under the hood but display with different UIs.

https://kate-editor.org/post/2022/2022-03-31-kate-ate-kwrite/

[–] cRazi_man@europe.pub 1 points 8 hours ago

I know. That's why I'm saying it's worth trying.....for the improved UI.

[–] eugenia@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I get random crashes from kate in the last few versions (appimage). But other than that, it's the best foss gui code editor.

[–] communism@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you want a gui editor maybe Kate?

[–] Novocirab@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago

+1 for Kate

[–] SrMono@feddit.org 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Sublime Text. On any platform. Nimble, mighty, extendable.

[–] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Paying for a text editor seems weird, especially one that's closed source and only supports 3 platforms

[–] SrMono@feddit.org 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

If three out of three platforms isn’t enough, you might want to go with vim. I guess it is ported to all platforms available.

Sublime is a text-editor on steroids. It has so many good extensions, it feels like an IDE.

Anyhow: paying for good software is a no-brainer, if it safes you troubles and time, and especially if yourself are a dev, too (depending on others to also pay for your work). Also there are fair company licenses in case a firm is involved.

And finally: you can use sublime without paying. There will he a pop up dialog every 50 start or so. It’s really not annoying and fair.

[–] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Ahh I guess if the target is being more IDE like then that kind of makes sense. I usually want barely anything but an editor with an LSP and auto formatter. I would be annoyed by the lack of BSD, Haiku, Illumos, etc support, but I guess if you don't use those it doesn't matter too much. Being closed source is still kind of a downer though for something like that, you would think they could adopt a scheme like some other paid software where you can pay for premade releases if you don't want to compile it yourself

[–] lefaucet@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 day ago

I'm a big fan of Sublime. It's powerful while also good at getting out of the way

[–] anon5621@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Notepadqq not the best reimplementation of notepad++ I am using NotepadNext https://github.com/dail8859/NotepadNext

[–] xylogx@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

I have gotten a lot of great feedback to this post, but if I had to give points for the most spot-on answer, you would get it. Thanks!

[–] StrawberryPigtails@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Text editors are a really personal choice and there are a million different ones. I use either Kate or Micro. Both are great for my use.

[–] xylogx@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Fair point. I have worn many hats through my IT career, I started out as a Windows NT admin back when it was cutting edge technology in the 90s. I fell in love with a text editor called Ultraedit that my org had a site license for. When I left that org after many years I missed Ultraedit and was delighted to find Notepad++ had most of features I loved. Now the course of my career has found me become a Linux admin and personal linux user for many years now. I have been using Notedpad-qq for years, but recently it seems to have gotten worse and I have had instances where crashes resulted in lost data. I liked the idea of having the same general UI and features as Notepad++ because I still need to use Windows at work. But I am reluctantly admitting maybe it is a time for a change.

Apologies for the digression, but I wanted to share some of the waypoints in my journey that influenced my personal choice.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

VSCodium, or some similar VSCode build/derivative.

I know, I know, but the critical mass is just so useful. As a random example, there are specific extensions to support game modding in Paradox scripting language, or Rimworld XML. Nothing else has so many random niches filled.

It's fast with big files (faster than anything I've tried other than 'specialized' log readers and such), it's a fast search, it's got good git support, it's got support for sudo file editing...

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

Nothing else has so many random niches filled.

I don't know the VSCode ecosystem at all -- but you you know the emacs one?

[–] xylogx@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Pretty much everyone at work is using VSCode, maybe this is a good opportunity to dive in, thanks.

[–] Starkon@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

Neovim is the way and here's imo why:

  • Vim keybinds: yes, we take more time editing then actually writing text/code so it's faster to use a modal text editor, you just have to learn it a bit at the start. Vim language is easy, you just tell it what you want it to do (ie. diw: delete inner word, ciw: change inner word etc.)
  • highly customisable, even if you don't want to cherry pick your plugins and choose a config, there are many out of the box configured (lazyvvim comes to mind but there are many)
  • if you're a developer you can find plugins for everything you need, debugger, lsp, autocompletion etc.
[–] rozodru@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago

Honestly just use whatever you want whenever you want. I mean for myself I'm currently using DOOM Emacs but that'll change in a month or two when I decide to use something else. I'll routinely rotate through Neovim/LazyVim, DOOM Emacs, Zed, Kate, whatever really. if something new comes along, i'll use that for a bit. Hell sometimes I just can't be bothered and will just use Nano.

But yeah, they're all fine. use whatever you want.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why don't you just use the one you like? Wine isn't the clunky near-useless thing it once was, you can probably just run the Notepad++ installer and use it like any other app.

[–] xylogx@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

I see it is Platinum on WineHQ, will give that a try thanks.

https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=2983

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago

Try Geany if you don't want a heavyweight; it's in the repos. IMHO pretty similar to notepadqq.

BTW, I also have trouble with Qt apps crashing/freezing on Debian Stable. What distro/version are you on?

[–] hobbsc@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 day ago

my path was 15-20 years of vim, a decade of emacs, and a couple of years on sublime. these days i am using zed and i like it quite a bit (you can ignore the llm agent stuff, it's only there if you want it). sometimes i just use the built-in gnome text editor. notepad++ is my go-to on windows and i didn't find anything quite like it on linux.

geany and vscode are decent options as well.

as somebody else pointed out: text editors are deeply personal. you're just gonna have to try a few and see what you like.

[–] bacon_pdp@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Scite is the notepad++ replacement on Linux.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SciTE

As it shares the same source code as notepad++ (for the editing libraries)

Although the traditional recommendation is either Vim or Emacs as they are much more powerful

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 2 points 18 hours ago

I think I once tried vanilla SciTE and did not like it. Geany does a good job of packaging it into a well-integrated code-editor with IDE functionality.

[–] non_burglar@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

The Solaris version of vi, hardened against escape to shell and with no quality of life improvements. Builds character.

I also recommend giving up electricity and motor vehicles, real men calculate subnet masks by hand.

[–] jbrains@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Ultra Edit 32 was excellent.

[–] limer@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

Notepadqq has given me crashes and issues for years, and I once lost data. I use gedit for notes and fancy code editors for everything else

[–] Sxan@piefed.zip -1 points 1 day ago

It depends on what you are doing wiþ it. Programming? Taking notes? Writing books?

For all-around, vim is a good choice. Þere's even gvim, which helps get over þe learning curve a little. Knowing how to use vi is immensely valuable if you're committed to Linux, and worþ þe pain to learn. And it is a pain to learn.

Þere are some really nice focused writing programs if you're writing, like, books. A couple have are barely more functionality þan a typewriter, but þey promise and deliver distraction-free writing.

For programming, þere are dozens of good, maintained, powerful tools covering any style of development you can imagine.

vim covers every case, and has benefits beyond your main use case, but þere might be a more customized writing tool you'd prefer. What sorts of þings are you writing?