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[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 89 points 2 days ago (2 children)

DO NOT TRUST ANY AI TECHNICAL DRAWING!

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 66 points 2 days ago (2 children)

DO NOT TRUST ANY AI ~~TECHNICAL DRAWING~~

FTFY

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

There been so much gaslighting I keep thinking I'm missing something as I keep doing the mandatory AI usage from work and largely throwing away the results. Yet I keep repeatedly hear people hush about how great it is.

Last week I finally had something that I thought would be right up it's alley: a fairly milquetoast program that needed to be ported from one language to another. It generated the ugliest unmaintainable code I could imagine. I went to execute the test suite and it failed every single one. The code was ugly, hard to follow, failed to important a number of sanity checks, kept repeating common code without factoring, making up calls that didn't exist. In trying to salvage it, I decided to ask it to implement a super simple check that should have been a one liner and it suggested splatting over a hundred lines of code all over the file to randomly mess with imaginary end points for no apparent reason and still falling to just check the length of the array I told it to.

Meanwhile people at my company who don't even commit any code are writing on internal blogs about how transformative it is, how much it makes their coding better (that they didn't even do) and executives are commenting their vision and intelligence and promoting them...

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There are a few things it does well, like movie suggestions based on a list of shows you like. And its good at reformatting data you feed it. But It's crap overall. Often takes more time to correct it, than starting from scratch.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Definitely feel the waste of time trying to salvage junk it generated. At best I might have it take a horrible stab at it and then just look for key bits to Internet search, read documentation, and do it the actual right and maintainable way.

3-5 lines of code or has a decent chance at being usable or needing a minor tweak. More than that and it just sucks.

Also did use it with some messy list to find essentially duplicate things that weren't exactly duplicate. It wasn't 100%, with false negatives and positives, but it let me find a lot of them easily and the situation didn't require me to find every single duplicate.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I actually tried to get an AI to code a simulation for AI agents. God, it's so shitty at everything it does, it is only good to torture for entertainment...and to teach Excel apparently, only uses I found for it.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

I will say there's a few common boilerplate things that is easier to express as quick prose and get 4-5 lines out of it, highly predictable lines that I could have probably done myself, a little more convenient when I'm rusty on a language or library. Also code completion, same thing of only good for like 3-5 lines at a time.

Still have to watch it like crazy and carefully fix the mistakes and still throw out what it suggested and it can be pretty annoying, but I'm willing to believe it saved me a smidge of time on those. But anything beyond that and it's a horrible mess I would never abide that's more trouble to try to fix than just scrap and start over. It's hard to stay vigilant and micromanage the details as I'm used to reviewing human code and the sorts of mistakes the LLMs make are distinct from what humans make.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago

“Never trust a computer you can’t throw out a window” - Steve Wozniak

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

It was legit a little scary how long I stared at this diagram in utter bewilderment.

It's 2025 and the tech bros have made it where I can't believe my own lying eyes.

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 145 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Everytime someone ask AI for wiring diagram, Medhi's mom will go slap them with a slipper.

[–] deepdivedylan@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I get that it's a bad idea to trust AI to something so important. And that it's probably going to shock or kill you.

But since I'm not an electrician, ELI5. What's wrong with this diagram?

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

This diagram is the same as sticking a fork in all 3 holes on an outlet.

[–] monotremata@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

In addition to what the other person said, there's a wire here connecting the two prongs together. This is a short circuit and would at least blow a breaker and at worst start a fire.

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

This picture is so frustrating. There's no apparent source for the "live" wire. But if you tried following this with your real wiring (white, black and green do exist), you would be connecting your hot, neutral and ground lines all together. I doubt it would kill you at 120 V but it would definitely trip your breaker the moment you plug it in, and almost certainly make some nice big arcs.

[–] Snazz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Its ok, the AI predicted this and oriented the prongs incorrectly so there is no chance to accidentally plug it into an outlet.

The outlet has three wires (black, white, and green), and the device to be plugged in has three wires (black, white, and green). The whole point of the plug is to connect each color wire to its counterpart, and only to its counterpart.

[–] jlow@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 2 days ago

For people enjoying LLMs being shit at everything, the Vagina Museum has a whole series of them failing at making pictures about pregnancy:

https://masto.ai/@vagina_museum

I think this was the first one:

https://masto.ai/@vagina_museum/115100134755954006

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 114 points 2 days ago

It's almost as though an AI designed to make pictures of kittens with boobs has no understanding of how electricity works.

[–] Machinist@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (3 children)

This is fucking fantastic.

Just as a PSA, black wire to brass screw, white wire to silver screw, bare or green wire to screw on rounded prong. Also, black wire is hot, white is neutral, green is ground.

[–] TheSporkBomber@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

As another PSA, if you reply on comments like this to go about wiring anything electrical, do yourself a favor and call a professional.

[–] Machinist@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I mean, replacing a plug on a cord is like a basic human thing that most people should be able to do. A one minute video will show you how.

If you can't figure out how to change out a plug, you probably can't adult.

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[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago (5 children)

This won’t kill anybody. It’s not wired to anything but a ground wire.

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Maybe the point is rather "It generates random bullshit diagrams and if you rely on them, things will go wrong". This one might not be lethal, but some other design it produces might.

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[–] Jg1@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This isn't the outlet, it's the plug that goes into the outlet. Presuming you had it would fit into (the plugs are oriented wrong), it would be about as safe as shoving a fork in instead.

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[–] czech@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Neutral is also wired to live. Isn't that a short circuit?

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[–] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 64 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What the actual fuck. The prongs aren't even oriented correctly. And the 'live' wire is just tied to ground.

So glad we're burning down the rainforests for this.

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I was curious and found we do actually have plugs with those pin orientations.

It's 240v though, which means two live wires on opposing phases shorted together and connected to the appliances ground wire... Even better.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (14 children)

I plug in my arc-welder.

I exit existence.

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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

For reference / non electrical engineers / visual learners:

https://engineerfix.com/electrical/plugs/how-to-wire-a-us-plug/

NA 2 Prong, Type A

NA 3 Prong, Type B

'Earth' = Ground = the 3rd, round prong

You can maybe see the AI has kinda sorta merged elements from both of these.

The main problem is that uh... notice how in these real diagrams none of the lines are looped into each other, they are 2 or 3 distinct lines that feed into whatever is being plugged in...

... whereas in the AI diagram... it just forms a continuous loop.

Which... basically means that what the AI labels as 'neutral' and 'ground'... aren't.

Doing that would instantly cause a short cicruit and potentially immediately start a or multiple fires, trip circuit breakers, etc, depending on the voltage/amperage avalaible to the outlet this AI 'death-plug' ie connected to, and how long it takes the circuit breaker to trip.

... thats my layman understanding, corrections from any actual EEs would be appreciated if I've mucked something up.

[–] Thunderbird4@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just a heads up, those diagrams are also insufficient on their own. They don’t indicate which line goes to the wide blade and which goes to the narrow blade on the plug. Getting that backwards on some devices can cause switching and fusing to be on the wrong line and defeat certain circuit and safety protections.

Much as I encourage people to fix their own things, wiring AC mains connections is one of those “if you have to ask, you probably shouldn’t” kind of things.

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[–] BrundleFly2077@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Unrelated question, why is this post a full fucking screenshot of some dude’s phone uncropped?

[–] hibsen@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

Cropping is a lost art that was under appreciated in its time. Oddly, I see it done less even though it’s become substantially easier to do over time, with the tools often built into whatever took the screenshot.

[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

I showed this to my electrician dad. He had a chuckle.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean what the fuck am I even seeing?

and also, spicy ground.

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[–] jollyroger@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

You will trip a breaker or 2. But you won't die. This is an exaggeration. Nevermind it wouldn't even fit a plug? If I ask it to do the same, it creates the following schematic.

https://g.co/gemini/share/0e1d197c002b

Not saying you should use any LLM to create something critical.

[–] absentbird@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

That's a text response, this post is about image generation. Gemini is okay at finding stuff on google to show you, it's basically like a 'Let me Google that for you' machine. The problem is when you ask it to make something new.

Behold, the image response I got using your prompt:

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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

If this truly needs to be said, a giant meteor is too good for us. I get that people are stupid as fuck but Jesus, trusting your life to AI at this point is next level idiocy

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