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[–] SpiceDealer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Pastors: NO! How will I condemn the gays now?!

Capitalism: That's great but what's the profit margin?

[–] JargonWagon@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Fascists: That drug causes autism, use this one instead (that just so happens to also profit us)

[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

$80 in the US. Because our president is a buffoon

[–] qualia@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Free with many insurances though! It may take a little longer to get a "Prior Authorization," but as long as you say you're in an at-risk group for HIV (Google these) it will eventually get approved.

The rationale is that since treating HIV+/AIDS is so astronomically more expensive than merely paying for this once every 6 months PrEP, that insurance actuaries determine the latter to be way more in the insurance company's interest.

This is good since it doesn't require the insurance companies to be ethical, just cheap. But a win-win is still a win-win, so I say take it where you can get em. {Former pharmacist here, feel free to reach out and ask how to get non-addictive drugs covered} 🪿

[–] InquisitiveYum5003@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hi Qualia, my brother is medically obese and uninsured. Does he have any chance of getting some sort of weight loss drug for free or low-cost? He has sleep/wake cycle problems too.

[–] qualia@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

slid into yer DMs

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I somehow read your post as "Free with insurgencies". Not sure what thats about.

banned in the us. because the president and health secretary is a bag of dicks.

[–] qualia@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just to clarify the potentially confusing title. This drug came out three months ago in the US, is a version of PrEP (pre-exposure prophylaxis) that only needs to be taken every six months, and is free with most insurances if you're in an at-risk demo.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

the article says it costs around $28,000. i don' mean to interrogate bu' d'ya have a source saying taht insurance covers that all

[–] qualia@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Since the Affordable Care Act it's been a legal mandate for all non-grandfathered-in insurances to cover all A & B recommendations with zero copay, which includes PrEP. Sources: HIV.gov, USPSTF.

Any disease that specializes in inserting itself into the host genome and then eradicating their immune system needs to be wiped out.

[–] selkiesidhe@sh.itjust.works 32 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Sounds like a good thing therefore the brainworm in charge of health here in the states will surely get it banned. Or at least made to cost several thousand percent more than it costs to make.

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

$40 a year somewhere else? That'll be $40K a year in america.

[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Thank goodness the west coast states have created their own health consortium and a bunch of east coast states have followed suit. I live in one of those east coast states, and just got a covid booster no questions asked. It is also covered 100% by my insurance.

[–] sol6_vi@lemmy.makearmy.io 1 points 1 day ago

So do I and I did the same and it was so easy. I felt hella privileged sitting in that chair this year.

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[–] MangioneDontMiss@feddit.nl 92 points 2 days ago (12 children)

40 dollars in low income countries. 28,000 dollars in the united states. The drug is made in the united states.

WTF.

[–] sga@piefed.social 18 points 2 days ago (3 children)

speaking as a indian - the reason that this is possible because we kinda ignore medical patents and formulations. (using kinda because i do not know the exact wording in law and the cooldown period).

It should also tell you about the cost of ingredients and manufacturing vs the costs you pay for "rnd for big companies" (who often build upon work done by universities which often are run by public fundiing)

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago

Pharmaceutical companies used to do basic research until the 90s. At this point, they are just banks who buy biotechs spun out from NIH research.

Now that NIH is gone, the industry will atrophy within a decade. There will be no new drugs.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

15 years on patent drugs.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 6 points 1 day ago

Those companies spend more on advertising than RND

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 40 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Makes you wonder if Trump has a point.

But thanks to RFK and Trump, there will be no more drugs like this in the future. Gilead did the trials, but 95% of the effort behind this was NIH funded. We can't even guess how many game changing drugs have been cut in 2025.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

As always Trump completely misunderstands the situation. Yes there’s a point in how exepnsive drugs are in the us, especially relative to other countries. But whether it’s manufactured in the us has almost nothing to do with it.

The problem is recovering all the development costs from American patients, and more recently just charging what they think the market will bear. We have to fix the complex maze of healthcare and all the levels of profiteering, we have to fix how development costs can be recovered and most of all we need to fix charging what the market will bear. Has everyone already forgotten the outcry over insulin a few years ago. A ceo who should be in jail decided to start charging ten or twenty times the cost, because he could, because us patients are a captive market. Then got away with saying “some of you can use these coupons….”. There’s definitely a point where exploitive business practices have crossed the line and should be considered criminal acts

[–] kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

A hell of a lot of that is funded by tax payers. They don't need to recoup money, they need to give the tax payers what they already paid for.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Drug development in trials costs $120-200M. Upon approval, Pharma expects $15B +.

They have proven they would rather a drug not save lives than offer lower profits.

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[–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Generic versions of a groundbreaking injectable HIV-prevention drug should be available for $40 a year in more than 100 countries from 2027, Unitaid and the Gates Foundation said Wednesday.

Marketed under the brand name Yeztugo by California-based Gilead Sciences, lenacapavir currently costs around $28,000 a year in the United States.

FUCK GILEAD

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[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 119 points 2 days ago (5 children)

And anti vaxxers will make some bullshit claim, making idiots believe it, and it'll only halfway eliminate HIV.

[–] jumperalex@lemmy.world 82 points 2 days ago

Not just them, but the religious fuckers who want everyone to suffer "consequences" for the sin of sex. Same ones that freak out about HPV vaccine.

I know there is a lot of overlap. But it isn't total.

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[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 71 points 3 days ago (6 children)

generic versions of a groundbreaking injectable drug to prevent HIV

The two organisations have entered into separate agreements with Indian pharmaceutical companies to produce cheaper generic versions of lenacapavir – a twice-yearly injection shown to reduce the risk of HIV transmission by more than 99.9 percent – for [more than 100] low- and middle-income countries.

Marketed under the brand name Yeztugo by California-based Gilead Sciences, lenacapavir currently costs around $28,000 a year in the United States.

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[–] tehredmage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)

"Preventative drug"? Is this what we're calling vaccines now?

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

HIV infects the immune cells, which is why attempts at vaccines failed.

[–] qualia@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah HIV doesn't use traditional warfare: it bombs hospitals. 😔

[–] Dremor@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

That's standard warfare to some these days.

[–] CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 day ago (5 children)

vaccine is a scientific term, meaning a weaker (or, rather, as weak as scientifically possible) version of the same virus / bacteria, so that immune system could learn to fight it without dying in the process.

This is not a vaccine, as has an active substance, that chemically interacts either with our body, HIV's shell, or both

[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

There are more ways, weak virus, dead virus, modified virus, payload swap virus and an mRNA blast.

Would love to see this HIV vac get more development and become permanent and a part of infant vaccine routine until it just fucking dies.

[–] CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 day ago

of course there are. I was axcited to hear about Vectors when they were developed. It's nice to see scientists come up with something new

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[–] stoly@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (5 children)

There are No vaccines for HIV. This is a drug that if taken continually will prevent the virus from taking hold.

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