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Italy sends second warship to protect flotilla – but asks it to surrender its aid to Israel (www.thecanary.co)
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cross-posted from: https://ibbit.at/post/64652

Italy has despatched a second warship to support the humanitarian Global Sumud Flotilla en route to deliver aid to Gaza and break Israel’s criminal starvation blockade, following continued – now nightly – Israeli attacks on the fleet of volunteer-crewed boats.

But at the same time, the Italian government has tried to pressure the flotilla to capitulate to Israeli demands to surrender its aid supplies – in this case to the local Catholic Church, which Israel will supposedly allow to distribute the aid in Gaza unmolested, despite the occupation’s diversion of aid to the criminal gangs it funds and its near-daily slaughter of desperate Palestinian aid-seekers.

Italy sending more support to the Global Sumud Flotilla – but with demands

The Global Sumud Flotilla consists of around fifty civilian vessels crewed by lawyers, politicians, medics and activists and has been repeatedly bombed by drones and buzzed by fighter aircraft, now with the added psychological warfare of drones playing loud music all night to try to deprive crews of sleep. Despite this one-sided aggression, the Israeli government is claiming that it is the unarmed humanitarian volunteers who are ‘pursuing violence’.

Italy sent a first naval ship earlier this week to ‘assist’ the flotilla after it was bombed by at least fifteen drones in international waters near Greece. Spain followed suit shortly afterward. So far, no crew member has been reported killed or seriously hurt.

Italian PM Giorgia Meloni said the government’s proposal was to hand the aid over in Cyprus to the Latin Patriarchate of Jerusalem for distribution in Gaza, and tried to blame the flotilla organisers for not accepting the ‘offer’.

Israel continues to maintain its vice-like grip on food and other essentials in Gaza while shooting and shelling starving aid-seekers at the ‘GHF’ so-called ‘aid’ stations it controls and funding an ISIS-linked criminal gang to steal aid and kill Palestinian refugees.

The flotilla crews have said they will continue on their mission to deliver the aid directly.

Featured image via the Canary

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[–] somename@hexbear.net 43 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wonder how the mass movements on the ground in Italy will take this. The government lasted only like a day before clarifying they were being performative. That’s not a lot of time to defuse internal tensions.

[–] Sebrof@hexbear.net 38 points 1 day ago

Unions are meeting about it today and tomorrow

Dockworkers from across Europe will converge on Genoa, Italy, on Friday and Saturday to coordinate an effort to block shipments of weapons that could be used in Gaza

Initially that means focusing on how to react to the Global Sumud Flotilla — a humanitarian aid convoy involving climate activist Greta Thunberg that was targeted by Israeli drones in international waters south of Crete earlier this week. Talks will cover blocking military exports to Israel, but the debate could widen, with moves that may threaten Israel’s trade ties with the EU.

"Looking ahead, it could mean coordinated industrial action in European ports against not just weapons, but all goods directed to Israel," said Staccioli.

Take my energy organized labor! spirit-bomb

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Time for people to line up with their filled out apology forms to @la_tasalana_intissari_mata@hexbear.net for calling them an ultra because they were skeptical a European country led by a fascist party would help Palestinians. You know who you are.

[–] la_tasalana_intissari_mata@hexbear.net 17 points 1 day ago

Apologize to the people of Palestine for continuing to be tricked again and again.

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 40 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Italy had everyone's support here for all of one day; we were even saying we'd let up on the Italy bashing; they couldn't have integrity for more than a day

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I hold out hopes for Spain, but I'm ready to have my hopes dashed across the rocks.

[–] OptimusSubprime@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Hopes dashed: Spain indicates it will NOT stop Israeli attacks on humanitarian flotilla

EDIT: edited to be more inline with dashing hopes, present tense.

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I told you I was ready! :pathetic:

[–] OptimusSubprime@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago

Well it was better than saying "get rekt". English language sucks.

[–] SickSemper@hexbear.net 44 points 1 day ago

Mfw the nato member isn’t actually going to open fire on Israeli commandos

shocked-pikachu

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 27 points 1 day ago

There it is

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 18 points 1 day ago

anti-italian-action

[–] dragongloss@hexbear.net 20 points 1 day ago

inshallah the Global Sumud Flotilla's mission succeed and they remain safe from Israel's aggression.

[–] SmokeyTheBear@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Woaw why isn't CHINA doing this TOO?!? /s

Where are those ultras at from the previous thread? Y'all seriously thought Italy was going to war with Israel LOL.

[–] somename@hexbear.net 26 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Calling anyone who disagrees with you an ultra is a bit childish.

[–] redchert@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ultra is already becoming the new "tankie", nothing is more harmful to leftist agitations than crypto-trotskyists spewing intellectualized terms into the mainstream.

[–] somename@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

crypto-trot is a fun phrase lol. Say it out loud. Feels nice.

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 1 points 1 day ago

I wish I could find an eye rolling emote to put here

[–] ufcwthrowaway@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Weren't Italy's port unions originally red unions? And isnt red unionism like the defining feature of left communism?

[–] somename@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

No idea. Not what they were referring to anyway. Also the unions are actually doing real, material, anti-genocide work. That's the opposite of ultra-armchairing as far as I'm concerned.

[–] ufcwthrowaway@hexbear.net 0 points 23 hours ago

My point is that ultras do good work

[–] SmokeyTheBear@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I find it childish that do-nothing western leftists have the GALL to criticize the most successful AES state to exist.

I find it pretty racist that a bunch of terminally online crackers think that they are more intelligent at geopolitics than an eastern country that has maintained its sovernty since the dawn of time.

[–] somename@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think you should read more Mao, if you think he thought introspection and reflection on ways to improve was bad. No state and organization is immune to criticism. I am generally pretty China positive. That doesn't mean I think every aspect of China is great. And yeah, I'm just a nobody on the internet. Just like all of us. We're just chatting lol.

[–] SmokeyTheBear@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not saying that any AES is beyond reproach. Constructive criticism is healthy and good.

You want to know what's not good? Using criticisms as a hammer and wedge to sow Reddit/Fed discord on enemies of the west. Take a look at the previous thread and tell me that wasn't exactly what was done.

We've seen this story play out before with the Trots (+ other left deviAtions). We've seen it before with Krusechevs secret speech. We saw it before with Hungary. With the Sino-Soviet split. My point is: Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater because you might not understand or agree with what AES countries are doing.

[–] somename@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't know if saying "Maybe China should work to cut economic ties with Israel" is a fed talking point. It's really the opposite of what they'd want.

[–] SmokeyTheBear@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Using this as a talking point to say they have turned their backs to communism/internationalism is a fed point that you yourself inspired in that thread. The meek western left sitting on their high horse of morality criticizing AES when their own countries actions are responsible for a vast majority of the horrors in the world is beyond words.

China is enemy #1 of course its good for the feds that the western radical left dislikes China. We have documented evidence of this same playbook being used historically (as I already mentioned). I personally refuse to demonise AES the same way the western left had historically.

[–] somename@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Enemy number one? What? Not at all lol. China does have great effects on the world, and the global south through their economic investment. Not to mention the vast increase in quality of life of their citizens. Like I said, I like a lot of what China does. I’m not criticizing them because I think they’re bad. I’m doing it because I think so much more good could come in the world if they took a solid, committed stance of international socialist leadership.

Saying I think China could still improve in international, ideologically-driven support, isn’t the same thing as repeating State Department smears. I’m not talking about bullshit like the Uyghur “genocide”, Falon Gong lies, or poor oppressed Taiwan.

[–] SmokeyTheBear@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

My point is there's a way of putting this without demonizing AES.

✅ China should cut economic ties with Israel

❌ China refusing to cut ties with Israel shows that they are revisionist capitalist dogs who have abandoned communism and internationalism.

Hope you can see my point and the difference between the two.

[–] arogon9999@hexbear.net 17 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Fascist Italy doing this for optics is still more impressive than defending China still doing jack shit and trademaxing

[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

trademaxing

Shit so they're trading with the zionist entity?

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

oh bigtime yeah

it makes me very sad, and I wish they would stop

[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 2 points 6 hours ago

Ireland too, no words, what a fucking betrayal. Thanks for sharing, could we please get a source from where the screenshots are taken? I'd like to save it too.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago

Fascist Italy is going to "escort" the flotilla to Cyprus and at this point, I won't rule out fascist Italy killing people on the flotilla alongside the IOF.

[–] SmokeyTheBear@hexbear.net 1 points 1 day ago

Fascist Italy helping out Israel is 'doing more for optics' huh? That's a wild take.

China lifting hundreds of millions of people out of poverty, helping develop the third world through belt and road, and standing on the side of peace is just nothing I guess!

I'll be sure to tell Xi that the white western geopolitical communism understanders on hexbear sternly disapprove of his countries actions.

[–] Crucible@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago

Watch the second ship shoot at the first ship when it tries to help