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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/49598995

Both factories manufacture only electric cars.

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[–] rising_man@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's overcapacity for cars in the world because the Chinese are fighting an internal price war due to overcapacity..., while at the same time no one has money to buy more expensive cars.

[–] Melchior@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago

There is also just lower demand for cars.

[–] Hotznplotzn@lemmy.sdf.org 30 points 3 days ago (2 children)

This is not limited to Volkswagen. China's BYD, the world's largest EV maker, slowed production at its China factories back in June, cancelled night shifts and production at some factories by at least a third of capacity, and suspended some plans to set up new production lines.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 3 days ago (2 children)

People dont have money to spend on 20-50k€ toys when they can just use public transport or cycle to work. I assume the same is happening with the expensive fossil fuel cars.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 19 points 3 days ago (2 children)

That is not the problem.

It is far more simple than that.

We are in a recession, people simply don't have the money to buy a new car, when they can get a used car with a far better value.

[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Where I live people have more than enough, but they don't care for these ridiculous electric SUVs. Make sane cars whose price is justified.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

Yeah, I hate the current SUV and crossover style infecting every car model.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Thats literally what i wrote lol...
People dont have money, so they will use cheaper alternatives. Thats why i wrote "expensive fossil fuel cars" because its about the price, not the technology. If there were cheap EVs then this wouldnt be happening.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There are 13 EV models in EU under €25K.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Thats cool, but most people dont even have 5k in their bank account.

[–] devfuuu@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Most people just have the exact money of their salary every month in the bank. No extra.

[–] Hotznplotzn@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

This is about EV demand slowing down.

But if you can use public transport or cycle to work, you shouldn't drive a car anyway, EV nor combustion engine. We need less cars in our cities and more public transport imho.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 days ago

EV sales are 27% higher in Europe 2025 over 2024. There are no sales in US because of tariffs and disinterest in the environment.

https://www.best-selling-cars.com/europe/2025-august-europe-car-sales-and-market-analysis/

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

BYD got stomped on by tariff. The only pattern is the fact that the oil barons are waging a war against electric vehicles and winning.

[–] Greddan@feddit.org 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Make small, affordable EVs. Range is a non-issue.

[–] Ougie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

How is range a non issue?

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They had the moment of a lifetime when Musk redoubled his efforts to make Tesla unpopular...... and they completely failed to grasp it.

[–] Melchior@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'm not doubting any of that, that VW is doing currently better in the market than Tesla. I'm saying that they could've totally swept the floor with Tesla because of the idiocies of Musk but failed to do that.

Looking at my crystal ball, I'm guessing that unless VW dramatically and very quickly improves the quality of their cars (and especially the software) the end result of this will be that Tesla will bounce back.

[–] vapeloki@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Great to hear. The ID7 may be the game changer for VW after all

[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

Depends on the price. 120? Lol no

55? Aight

[–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 days ago

I think you might have misunderstood the headline.