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[–] Dorkyd68@lemmy.world 44 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I absolutely despise trump. With that said, I hope we never see her as president. She's insanely out of of touch with the common folk. I'd much rather see AOC or that Texas democrat dude with the ears

[–] Aeri@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I will take any functioning adult who I can not easily visualize mentally as a 1940's German officer.

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[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 44 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Read the room Harris and stop justofying your mistakes

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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Not surprising after she banned Gazan supporters and a local Democrat legislator at her own DNC rally.

Absolute garbage mound of a candidate and campaign that completely deserves to be thrashed by the very constituency she refused to acknowledge.

Bunch of you failure shills in this comments still thinking this was a progressive candidate need to look at literally any of her responses to questions about public policy. Nothing but a 1:1 copy of Biden's equally shit tier response to major internal and external issues, and very obviously way more right leaning than Obama.

I still remember some of you outright denying the existence of Gaza protestors at DNC events, as if any news outlet reporting it was a Russian compromised asset, and any user on lemmy.world supporting such action was a lemmy.ml Chinese spam bot in disguise.

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[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (14 children)

Same people attacking any suggestion that their inaction let the orange monkey back into the WH. But hey, 'it wasn't me who voted him in', right?

[–] breadguy@kbin.earth 22 points 1 week ago (4 children)

people made it clear that supporting genocide was a line they wouldn't cross, this was apparent even without the polls. how are we still blaming voters when the dems still refused to adjust position? they chose Israel over winning, that's completely on them.

[–] Aquaphobi@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Yeah it’s bullshit. I voted third party because dems decided Israel is worth supporting. But let’s be mathematically accurate here.

Even if all the people who DID vote that did not vote republican had voted for the democrat, there would not have been enough electoral college influence to affect the outcome.

You would have needed more non-voters to vote. But a non-voter then was probably a never-voter. There are people that exist who simply don’t care one way or the other who is in charge and you can’t convince those people to go vote. Sure you can try, but in the end it’s the people who did vote who get what they voted for.

Regardless of all of that I find the “you should have voted democrat” argument to be exceptionally stupid. The democrat party is backing a government that I find to be morally reprehensible, as do most Americans, what should have happened is those who were saying “yeah it’s bad but I’m still gonna vote dem” should have just voted for a third party. Why vote against your interests?

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[–] notabot@piefed.social 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

So, they refused to support genocide (a position, to be clear, that I agree with) by taking an action (voting third party) or inaction (not voting) that would clearly, and obviously, give a candidate who supported genocide a higher probability of not just winning, but being supported by others with the same opinion?

Voters were put in an invidious position and there were no good options, but there was one option that was clearly worse in every way, and they either directly or indirectly chose to support him.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (7 children)

You can't claim to oppose genocide at the same time vote for one of the parties who gives billions to israel to commit genocide.

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[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Donald Trump secured a clear victory in the 2024 presidential election, but some online posts claimed Kamala Harris would have won several key states if not for ballots cast for third-party candidates. This misrepresents available data -- preliminary totals show that even with all the non-Trump votes in the seven biggest battlegrounds, the vice president would not have secured an Electoral College win.

https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.36LT4WK

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[–] bigmamoth@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Who has the video when she was doing a rally for her campaign and protester said free Palestine and she shut them down ?

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (9 children)

She could have been if she didn't fuck up the Gaza situation...

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Anyone who didn't vote out of protest did far more to "fuck up the Gaza situation" than she did.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

While I think "protest not voting" is bad (considering the alternatives), so is giving even more weapons to a genocidal state.

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago

This is just patently false but way to pin the blame for her actions on random individuals with no power to change anything.

https://www.npr.org/2025/06/26/nx-s1-5447450/trump-2024-election-non-voters-coalition

[–] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You can't win electrons by running on a pro-genocide platform. You have to listen to your voters to win elections.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You can’t win elections by running on a pro-genocide platform

Unless you're a Republican, of course, then it becomes a necessity.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The solution isn't to become a republican. Though democrats seem to think it is.

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[–] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 week ago (30 children)

Kamala Harris ran on a pro-genocide platform and was very supportive of Israel. This was one of the reasons why she lost.

[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

What, specifically, was the "pro genocide platform"? Because I remember that election pretty well, and I don't recall any advocacy of genocide, at least not from Harris.

Let's be honest for one second. Here's how American politics on Israel actually breaks down:

Democrats: often criticize Netanyahu but never actually cut off aid. However, several Democrats already opposed continuing aid to Israel and the rest of the party conceivably could listen to growing opposition to Israel's war.

Republicans: actively hate all poor brown people and want Israel to kill them all. They will also use deportations and any other means available to silence anyone voicing opposition to said killing of all poor brown people.

I get that neither choice is perfect, but I really can't see why it's a struggle.

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[–] Licksrocks@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Trump is doing a fantastic job supporting Israel in her place

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[–] TheJesusaurus@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago (5 children)

This thought process makes no fucking sense though because the other guy did too...

Kamala was very obviously the "better" choice for Palestine.

Yes, she's still a shit choice for Palestine.

But I don't understand this logic, this person is going to let a genocide happen if we elect them, the other guy is going to let a genocide and a fascism happen.

Someone make it make sense

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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

How's that working out? 🙈

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[–] ruuster13@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 week ago (33 children)

Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong Un are “laughing at us right now.”

And they're loving the goons continuing their antidemocratic work of perpetually attacking Harris. Crisis averted: a black woman didn't get in the hot seat where she could have actually moved the needle toward progress. True progressives understand why Rosa Parks was picked even though she wasn't first. The purity test bullshit on the left is a successful bait campaign by the right.

[–] TherapyGary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The purity test bullshit on the left

Dems aren't on the left

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Unironic use of "purity test" means "I have no standards and expect you to abandon yours."

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[–] VasovagalSyncope@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (20 children)

If she shut up and went away, then protesters probably wouldn't bother her.

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[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (29 children)

Goddamn these fucking protesters are such inauthentic losers. So "brave" yet terrified to protest the Trump administration.

Fucking phonies. They don't even remotely give a shit about Palestinians.

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[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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