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China has sided with Russia on the Ukraine issue at the United Nations while telling the U.S. to stop sending weapons to Kyiv.

China's ambassador to the United Nations, Zhang Jun, has said the U.S. should stop sending weapons to Ukraine to allow diplomatic efforts to work.

"Certain countries should immediately stop pouring oil on the fire and stop undermining the diplomatic efforts of the international community," Zhang said while pointing at the U.S. at the U.N. Security Council review of the Ukraine issue on Monday in New York.

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[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 125 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"We'd really like to set the precedent now that a larger neighboring country should be able to invade the Taiwan without any military support from outside that might impede this. What? Did I say Taiwan? I mean, 'a smaller country'" - China probably

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago

"So you consider it a country?"

"No I mean uhh"

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 59 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

This is what anti NATO sentiment gets you. It‘s not like China just started supporting Russia‘s invasion. They‘ve been working together from the very start and quite openly. But after Trump‘s rambling they now feel confident enough to show it plainly at a UN meeting.

I mean just late last year, Xi met with Biden in a historic visit, promising more cooperation and it took Trump a couple of minutes to reverse these efforts. Not like Xi could‘ve been trusted, but there was at least hope he could somewhat be contained, China being highly dependent on global relations and all. That‘s off the table now. Looks like we got another crazy dictator on the loose now.

[–] Ember@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I’m a bit out of the loop on this - how the heck did a guy who isn’t even in office any more undo the diplomatic progress of the President? Does he actually still have any sway with foreign leaders?

[–] ApexHunter@lemmy.ml 35 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That guy is essential the head of the Republican party, which controls half of Congress and holds a majority of seats on the Supreme Court. When he says jump all of the other Republicans ask how high, while they all try to figure out ways to 1up each other to please him.

So when he speaks, he indicates what he wants to happen which telegraphs actions of all of his sicophants. So if he says "torpedo the border bill" it gets canned. If he says IDGAF about NATO, you can be sure China and Russia see an opening they can exploit.

[–] Ember@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I see, thank you kindly for your explanation. I knew he’s still the head of the Republican Party but I didn’t expect him to still be able to influence foreign relations to such a large extent. That’s just wild to me.

[–] ApexHunter@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago

In a normal functioning political party he wouldn't. But the Republican party is more like the cult of Trump right now than a political party, so.... 🙁

[–] anlumo@lemmy.world 29 points 9 months ago (1 children)

A lot of mental gymnastics going on there, I hope they don’t pull a brain tendon.

[–] mellowheat@suppo.fi 29 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

This might be the most evil thing China has done in a while. I mean this suggestion doesn't include a demand that Russia also stops sending weapons to Ukraine, right?

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

China just wants Ukrainians to be the new Uyghurs.

[–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 25 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This is one of the most brain dead takes China has had, and they’ve had a lot.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world 28 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Its really not braindead at all. Well if ur goal was to invade a smaller neighbour and didnt want them fighting back that is.

[–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Right, but no one is going to buy such a bullshit excuse so why bother.

[–] Psychodelic@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

Oh, you must be new here

[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago (1 children)

As other have said here, this is obviously an attempt to create a foundation of legitimacy for their own invasion of Taiwan. What I don’t understand about diplomacy at this level is this: Why do they care? What I mean is, everyone in this deliberating body knows what they are doing, and everyone observing it knows as well. Furthermore, as a permanent, veto holding, member of the Security Council, China faces no actual oversight from the UN as a whole. So, why bother with the show?

[–] PeckerBrown@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Fuck you, China, and fuck you, Russia.

[–] aew360@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago

I’d like to also say fuck Iran and North Korea while we’re throwing fucks around

[–] febra@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

I don't have a good feeling about the future. China seems to side a lot with Russia at the UN lately.

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

So Trump agrees with ChyNA. Why is Trump pushing China’s agenda?

[–] beaxingu@kbin.run 6 points 9 months ago

why not just ask for Iran and north Korea to give them weapons they could never be against that.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 2 points 9 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


China's ambassador to the United Nations, Zhang Jun, has said the U.S. should stop sending weapons to Ukraine to allow diplomatic efforts to work.

China hasn't officially extended support to Russia's war in Ukraine, but Beijing has provided financial assistance, allowing the Kremlin to build weapons and fund the conflict.

"NATO must adhere to dialogue and consultation in resolving disputes and to the general direction of political settlement, instead of engaging in pressure, smearing and unilateral sanctions, and even less in the use of force.

The Senate members voted 70-29, paving the way for the House of Representatives to review the $60.06 billion in additional aid to Ukraine, CNN reported on Tuesday.

"Without Western military aid, the odds of Ukraine successfully resuming large-scale offensive operations to liberate its Russian-occupied territories in 2025 are at the outer end of the optimistic range.

That in turn calls for a different long-term strategy for Ukraine and for its allies and partners," wrote Eugene Rumer, Director of the Russia and Eurasia Program at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, on February 7.


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