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[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 71 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Not to defend RFK, but this argument is dumb.

People from everywhere it doesn't natively grow developed cancer long before they had access to tobacco. That doesn't prove tobacco use doesn't cause cancer, it just means it isn't the only potential cause.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (4 children)

That's because cancer is a category of diseases, not a single one. Specific types of cancer that are caused by smoking are caused by smoking (there is afaik 12 of those, and some are associated with prolonged inhalation of any smoke, and some are only tabaco-related, but it doesn't matter)

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The point is, the claim is that Tylenol is "linked to" autism.

This post is rebutting the claim that Tylenol "causes" autism.

Thats a classic straw man argument.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

No, the post is claiming that because Tylenol was discovered after autism, it can't be a cause of it. That's flawed logic: it's true that autism must also have some other cause, but it's very possible in principle for things to have multiple causes, so the timeline argument proves nothing.

That's not to say that Dipshit McBrainworm's claim has any sort of merit whatsoever, mind you. It's just that this argument is defective.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 5 points 6 days ago

Also I'm pretty sure paracetamol has been around for about 150 years or more.

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[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 53 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

The logic of the 'meme' is just bad. Something being identified before something else does not mean the second thing cannot create the first.

Cancer existed before cigarettes, yet cigarettes still cause cancer. Using this 'meme's' logic, "anyone trying to tell you that cigarettes cause cancers is entirely full of crap".

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago (2 children)

This is another dumb take. Cigarettes don't cause cancer, they increase cancer risk.

RFK is claiming he knows the cause of Autism not something that can increases its risks.

The logic of this meme is sound.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You know how cigarettes increase cancer risk? They do it by causing cancer

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

We are here talking about RFK's insistence that Tylenol causes Autism.

Cigarettes don't cause cancer as many people who smoke never get cancer. They do increase the risk of developing it though.

Once again though, we are not talking about increased risk and nor is RFK.

I can assure you I take smoking cigarettes seriously. In fact, I helped lobby to end smoking in bars and restaurants in my town and I was successful in doing so.

[–] BananaIsABerry@lemmy.zip 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This is giving some strong "bullets don't kill people, it's the blood loss and organ damage" and I don't like it.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

Hey, I know reading comprehension may not be your thing and this is certainly not my fight. I will break it down one more time for clarity.

RFK claims it CAUSES Autism. He does not claim merely it increases the risk.

This meme stated quite logically that if it is the cause of Autism and Autism existed before the medication use was widespread, then clearly it does not cause Autism.

Obviously it does not cause Autism, in fact I doubt it is even a risk factor for it. This is pseudo science bullshit that is being used to sell made up "treatments".

Frankly, people that are having a hard time with this are playing devil's advocate, misinformed, or are MAHA.

So what part of this are you not "getting"

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm wondering if they saw the research that shows paracetamol reduces empathy and just jumped straight to autism

E.g. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6455058/

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[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 35 points 6 days ago

it's a bad argument, but the people claiming that Tylenol causes autism aren't using logic to make their claim either.

[–] Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Paracetamol, what you lot call acetaminophen, was first synthesized in 1877(or maybe much earlier in 1852). It wasnt widely used until the 1950s. Tylenol is a brand name that means fuck all to any conversation.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 days ago (2 children)

It means a lot to the company that owns the Tylenol brand. People would be fools not to try suing.

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[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago
[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2817406

Findings In this population-based study, models without sibling controls identified marginally increased risks of autism and attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) associated with acetaminophen use during pregnancy. However, analyses of matched full sibling pairs found no evidence of increased risk of autism (hazard ratio, 0.98), ADHD (hazard ratio, 0.98), or intellectual disability (hazard ratio, 1.01) associated with acetaminophen use.

[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

I can't wait to post this on social media. No one is going to respond and actually read a medical journal article but Bravo for this. Very interesting and telling. These people will take anything and run with it hardcore for an agenda my god lol

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 6 points 6 days ago

Looks like those elite bastards are going to make some good old creaky stock market money off of their Tylenol lies.

[–] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago
[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Jeffery Epstein

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Oh he also recently ate thermal paper/reciept because it was healthy on an article today. hes also associated epstein too.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

TL;DR they want Autistic people to go without pain killers.

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

and pregnant women ☝😃 ibuprofen is not allowed during the last trimester making tylenol the usual painkiller of choice

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