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I think it's a relief that no matter how much the world changes, some things stay the same, like Germany and France being at each others' throats. No shots fired at least.
Well, not yet anyhow. Give 'em time.
this post was submitted on 19 Sep 2025
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Rule 6. No seriousposting.
Honestly, I'd happily post to a LessCredibleDefense, but nobody's yet created it, and I don't want to moderate a community and do one myself, so I'm using NCD as the closest thing until someone up and does it.
Reddit had three "tiers" of seriousness:
Credible Defense: This expects material to be cited, have people who really know what they're talking about. This is kinda stifling, and a lot of people can't really engage in conversation at this level.
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Does there need to be an LCD yet? I don't know. Personally, I don't think that there's enough traffic to warrant breaking out a lot of communities
like, there just isn't a large-enough userbase for most video-game-specific forums that existed on Reddit to exist, not enough users to keep them alive. I think that there's a better case for an LCD than them...but even NCD doesn't have a whole lot of traffic today, and CD is basically a ghost town.
In all seriousness, if France winds up on their own on another European joint fighter project and there wind up being three European fighter projects (Dassault's CEO, in the past, threatened to just walk out the door and do an update of the Rafale, which seems like a bad idea for France if it's a serious threat, the FCAS with the remaining members and now maybe Sweden, and the UK, Italy, and Japan doing the GCAP), I am skeptical that Europe is going to have the kinds of funds needed to produce globally-competitive fighters. And fighters don't get developed every day, so this is talking about the state of defense for quite some time.
Not only that, but France wants a CATOBAR-capable fighter, unlike basically every other potential partner/customer in the world except maybe India, so I'd expect that they face an uphill battle on exports.
The War Zone coverage:
https://www.twz.com/air/germany-considers-split-from-france-on-next-generation-fighter