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People who pay for conveniences in order to delegate their labor these days often confuse their class/caste privileges for a sign of maturity. What you're confusing for a sign of maturity (people cooperating with you because you are competent/ respected) is actually capitalism replacing your social connections with money. You'll notice that's also how they trashed the rest of your society, if you take two minutes and think about it.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 4 points 1 day ago

If I had the money, I'd pay someone to tell you that you're wrong.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

An oil change at jiffy lube costs me 80 bucks and is about an hour or my time. Doing it myself is 50 bucks in oil and is about 2 hours of my time. Taking these simple numbers, that's 30 of labor I can pay to save myself 2 hours of work. Or $15/hr saved.

You don't mention the opportunity costs associated. Yes I can do it myself, but I lose 2 hours of my precious weekend doing it. Time I could be with family or friends, doing my own projects, or even doing projects that are more labor costly. Why waste my time with something like that when my time is much more better spent doing other things.

I have no maturity or caste whatever with it, you're putting a lot of your emotions on other people. Good unpopular opinion though.

[–] Battle_Masker@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This example brings up another point that the argument doesn't address. You have to know how to do an oil change to begin with, and you'd be surprised how many people don't. Or maybe you wouldn't, it's not exactly straightforward. I knew someone who poured the oil down the dipstick hole instead of the oil tank hole

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

My Vehicle from 99 had a straight forward dipstick that always seemed to be perceptionally accurate. For some reason now I can't seem to ever find good measurements on these small dipsticks. Is the engine warm, yes. Pull it, wipe it, dip it... Shmeer across the whole thing and I can't tell where the level is at. Or the entire thing is covered or nothing at all which should be telling me it's really high/low. I've even asked others to check them next to me and they tell me they have no idea what it is at either. i read somewhere to take sandpaper to old ones to give them more surface for the oil to stick to, but that seems like a recipe for metal shards flaking off into the oil down the line, maybe not though.

Level surfaces and patience are 2 things I need more of

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

At least it was in the oil spot and not the transmission fluid spot.

[–] Junkers_Klunker@feddit.dk 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Good old Subarus, having the drainplug for engine and transmission near each other and identical led people to drain the transmission and overfilling the engine.

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

How not to build a car example number one

[–] Object@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Which tasks are we talking about? That's quite a general statement.

[–] Corelli_III@midwest.social 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Here are examples:

  • meal prep and delivery

  • child care / elder care

  • laundry service

My opinion is that these are services that people often delegate with money in order to pursue financial opportunities other people don't have, and they often confuse their class privileges for social maturity because money has replaced social relationships in their life.

[–] Object@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh, fair enough. I don't do any of those either. Though I don't think it's bad enough that it can be interpreted as being not mature.

[–] Corelli_III@midwest.social -2 points 2 days ago

What do you think delegating your needs through capitalism is a sign of?

[–] socsa@piefed.social 1 points 2 days ago

"Raise your own fucking kids, that shit is GROSS"

  • Karl Marx
[–] Junkers_Klunker@feddit.dk 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Do you grow everything you eat yourself or do you pay someone to do it for you?

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is a bad faith comment.

[–] Junkers_Klunker@feddit.dk 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No it isn’t, I’m trying to get OP to see some nuance instead of them just “hurt durr rich idiots pay others to do everything”

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Food supply in modern age goes from grocery store, food out, food in, delivery.

Grocery store is required in modern age...

But broke idiots keep ordering delivery

I think that's the OP's thesis

[–] winkerjadams@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think you forgot that whole part before the grocery store. Food has to come from somewhere first, it doesn't just materialize on the shelves

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 1 day ago

You are being dense

[–] Corelli_III@midwest.social 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Mentioned in another reply I'm working on personal food and water security. I supply about 1/3 of my calories from gardening.

I did it myself with hand tools, took about 40 hours all said but most of that was up front over about a week. Potatoes are easy and I'm in a region where Tisquantum's method of sewing the three sisters works really well. My wife does tomato and peppers. Its a lot of potato. 6 ft x 10 ft trench yielded buckets full.

[–] Junkers_Klunker@feddit.dk 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So you’re privileged with great soil and still paying someone else for 2/3 of your calories? You see why people may pay others to do something they’d technically could do themselves.

[–] Corelli_III@midwest.social 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's your gotcha? Holy shit sorry for taking your comment in good faith, hope you trip 🖕

[–] Junkers_Klunker@feddit.dk 1 points 1 day ago
[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

A lot of working class people create favor networks as a way to collectively perform tasks while still benefitting from the division of labor. This activity is seen going back to prehistoric times.

Money has become a means of exchange to denote those exchanges, but division of labor has been a hallmark of humanity.

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You say “your society” as if you aren’t part of it. You also assume we haven’t thought about it already, with a condescending sendoff. Not so much an unpopular opinion as it is virtue signaling from a soapbox.

[–] Corelli_III@midwest.social -1 points 2 days ago

i live around a lot of nazis i don't identify with and they currently control society here (rustbelt midwest) but i see a lot of people of various political backgrounds with this particular misconception

anyway I even qualified this unpopular opinion with "people often" and you're not under this delusion

if you're not being criticized by the premise, and you don't agree with the opinion, perhaps it is an Unpopular Opinion?

[–] cloudless@piefed.social 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Do you get all your food by farming? Do you collect fresh water?

[–] Corelli_III@midwest.social 1 points 2 days ago

I'm at about 35% calories from my own farm and the water infrastructure out here pulls from the river a mile from my house which the village does a bad job of treating, I'm patching together water solutions right now.

[–] jbrains@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I see folks justify convenience purchases by quoting some savings per hour, but without a plan for how to generate revenue with the time they save. 🤷

[–] IWW4@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

What does “cash pilled by advertising” mean?

[–] Corelli_III@midwest.social 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

cheery whistling music

Listen, life happens. But when you're on the go, you don't want to be weighed down by the basic chores that allow people to live. That's why we sell schmoopy. Your transportation/ child/ meal prep/ elderly parent/ laundry/ chauffeured ice-cream taco/ media collection won't take care of itself, but you can pay schmoopy so you don't have to think about it. That way, you can get back to the more lucrative activity we've designated for your class.

[–] IWW4@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Corelli_III@midwest.social 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

i'm just glad that explanation made sense to you bc it was the easiest way i could think to frame it

[–] IWW4@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It was spot on!

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 2 days ago

How is this unpopular...

broke idiots getting delivery is idiotic, and their excuses are generally out right pathetic

[–] socsa@piefed.social 1 points 2 days ago

Socialism is when no services.