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Taking politics (mostly) out of it -

Luigi allegedly killed because he saw injustice and had empathy for other people, wanted to show the evils of health insurance companies.

This kid imo allegedly killed because he loved someone CK was spouting hateful narratives about. His empathy for this person he loved, and people like them who are just normal people living life, made it easy for him to turn to guns when he wanted this person gone for eternity.

People with empathy are snapping.

thanks for posting this, many people here seem to be hellbent on projecting onto the shooter whatever their preferred identity for him would be.

all i really care to know about him is that he's a good shot.

I’m just still mad Charlie Kirk is getting this much attention and the conservatives haven’t bat an eye to the children shot. I’m still mad the conservatives are the ones always advocating for guns and now that the conservatives have been attacked with a gun they say the left are the dangerous ones, even when the left are the ones who have been saying for years now the guns are out of hand.

This is coming from someone raised in a white conservative christian mom and dad household. They were always hoping for the end of the world or some sort of zombie apocalypse just so they could fully disconnect from the rest of the world and use their guns. When the left was pushing for better gun laws I always heard my parents outraged and saying “they will have to pry my guns out of my cold dead hands” - it’s no wonder I’m a leftist as an adult now. P.S. my parents were also fully on board that the sandy hook shooting was fake and it was all “fake actors” that’s all they think when it’s innocent children getting shot. But when it’s Charlie Kirk then they’re mad and it’s all the lefts fault.

Ok so suppose this is some seemingly normalish apolitical gamer kid that was foolishly taught to solve problems with guns. Kirk was blanket targetting people he cared about and took action to do something about it.

This is the MO of some guy who's like neighbors are like threatening their wife. Its not a good solution but if the cops won't help folks being threatened its what people do.

The same day a right wing trump gooner killed a bunch of kids in colorado. Its crazy that the media is all lockstep in whitewashing charlie kirk like this to explicitly go after people fully unrelated to the shootings.

My initial impression of his writings hit me as either Groyper posing as a leftist, or just an accelerationist psychopath.

Either way, it doesn't change the fact that right-wing extremism makes up the majority of violence.

This is what a "slow pivot" looks like. Kirk's killer didn't turn out to be the gay, trans, rainbow polar bear the news was hoping for and did their hardest to promote.

The obvious "tidy narrative" is that the son of two Trump supporters, living in an ultra conservative state just might be a conservative himself.

this country isn’t ready for what the youngest online male zoomers are like lol. i’m a millennial but i’ve been here the whole time watching cultures come and go and the memelord nihilist has been growing since ‘04. there are many variations and they range from sad and pathetic yet ultimately harmless to sad and pathetic and goddamn dangerous. these people can have a mixture of politics and usually prefer whatever has the most public condemnation so they can align themselves with immorality as a point of pride which becomes their identity. fuck having your own beliefs, just follow whatever gets the most negative response from society.

I'm pretty sure I know his type and my guess is he "did it for the lulz"

Here's my tidy narrative: he was raised in MAGA family, was poorly educated and had a lot of exposure to extremists positions but little exposure to critical thinking. When he finally was exposed to different ideology at college he wasn't able to process is correctly and reacted violently, as he was taught to do by his conservative upbringing.

Shocking that a terminally online 22 year old doesn’t have a consistent ideology.

I saw a comment on instagram from someone saying Charlie Kirk had had some “powerful comments” in his videos. Checked the profile and there was a ton of pro-environment, anti-cop content. Most people don’t think super hard about their political ideology.

I'm a little annoyed with how quickly everyone here latched onto the Groyper narrative and parroted it as established fact. Seems unhelpful to run with a story before any evidence came out.

What about the tidy narrative of raised in a conservative home with early and easy access to guns?

There haven’t been many shooters that weren’t around right wingers and guns at home, wherever their supposed personal ideologies became.

Of course he fits into a tidy narrative: whatever one the right wants. Clearly he's trans, trans-adjacent, trans-influenced, trans-atlanic who did a bad because the social contagion eroding the social fabric of western (read: cis straight white male-dominated christian) civilization. We knew these facts before Kirk's body hit the floor.

The rest of the "details" like, reality and evidence or whatever, doesn't really matter.

You mean...they're not transgender?! Who'd thunk it?!

Just mark one up against the stupid "a lot" response Kirk made when asked how many transgender shooters are out there.

How crazy would it be if we found out he did it for love?

You thought that right- and left-wing extremists are the problem, turns out the center-extremists are /s

People want a good weapon they can use to hurt others. But the store only has a human shaped tool. How can we swing that at others?

Please, I just need a "he was a groyper." The guy behind me wants a "he was trans."

The more ergonomic the concept the better. Don't tell me it's complex or untidy. What's the point of being trained by the media? I have all these patterns... just fit the guy into one already.

Did they just learn about nuance and that practically nothing in life is strictly black and white?

Planted chats. Full of boomer speak. It's not even chatgpt. Just straight boomer speak.

“I am still okay my love…”

Does anyone his age write like that?

Who does?

They will continue to try to turn the dude trans. Simple fact is that kirk didn't hate enough people and died for it. They once again are trying to cloud the truth and make up anything they can to promote their agenda of hate.

And I think that's what scares the right even more. He was "normal" by their standards. Not a loner, accepted by his family, hobbies, Christian background, went to trade school, solidly middle-class family, white, cis. If you've effed up the system so much that this "normal" guy can do something like this then that's scary. Que "are we the baddies" gif.