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It's a curious thing. I'm not dismissing any of their claims, but I find it a bit interesting that they can so easily uncover everything that the government doesn't want you to know when it's hidden for a reason.

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[–] OrderedChaos@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

I would imagine that to hide the truth that leaked they would feed nonsense on purpose so they can either find a leak and/or fill the world with so much false data that the truth is harder to find. I'm sure there is some truth in the middle of all this.

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 3 points 9 months ago

Pretty much like most other leakers of information be that film or TV shows - most don't know anything and either keep it so vague that they can claim anything as a win (a recent leak about Moon Knight season 2 said it was in development about would have at least 6 episodes - anyone could have made that up) or go so far into the deep end that it's impossible to come up with evidence to contradict it (like being part of an "away team" in an extraterrestrial exchange program where you spent a decade on another planet while a doppelganger filled in for you back on Earth).

Somewhere in there may be legitimate leakers but they get drowned out by the grifters and the mentally ill. In fact, some leakers are likely to be spreading disinformation to cover up secret goings-on or to test how leaky an organisation is.

Good luck trying to pick through that tangled mess looking for "the truth". Although I am sure it's out there, it's usually well guarded.

[–] Xanthrax@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Declassified documents and vetted leaks/ information like the Panama papers. You can also track the stock lawmakers are trading.

[–] fubo@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

There's good money in "based on a true story". Conspiracy theories sell books, get eyeballs on web ads, make fame, and boost political campaigns. When a person is rewarded for turning their speculations or outright lies into "nonfiction" form, they're likely to persist in doing it.

[–] Kaboom@reddthat.com 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Theres classified data leaks all the time. Hell, warthunder has had like 7 leaks now? Its not a small number.

Plus, its not like MKUltra didnt happen.

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[–] Breezy@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

All human thoughts are collected into a sorta zeitgeist that we all unknowingly tap into. Take for example- when you have a truely original idea, that is then uploaded to the collective human zeitgeist, which thus allows other humans to be able to tap into and have the exact same idea. Some people know how to dive deep and collect this information, and spread it out into the public sphere of knowledge.

[–] Breezy@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago
[–] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's just...there...on the internet...because the most powerful people in the world are bumbling fools with no sense of security.

[–] PlasterAnalyst@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

because the most powerful people in the world are bumbling fools with no sense of security.

Seems pretty accurate actually.

[–] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 0 points 9 months ago

Ahh, the OceanGate incident. Good times (except for that poor son).

[–] Kid_Thunder@kbin.social -1 points 9 months ago

YouTube, Facebook, forums and pretty much any echo chamber. Pretty much anything that has replaced AM radio and shitty newsletters. In the ~2020's also parroting politicians -- I'm sure I don't need to go over the last 4 years of examples, so how about the Bowling Green massacre that never happened?

[–] Melkath@kbin.social -2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

In the example of 9/11, there were MOUNTAINS of video footage, news articles, and documents stored in a large array of community archives that started as community efforts to find Osama Bin Laden and as it dawned on all of us, slowly morphed into trying to put together a solid fully documented and supported narrative of what actually occurred on that day.

Community leaders disappeared under mysterious circumstances and then all of those digital archives disappeared.

People who were in those communities and helped to compile those archives saw it with their own 2 eyes and remember what was discovered.

People who were not in those communities don't believe they ever existed.

Edit: Looking at these comments, its just precious.

Question "If the government is hiding information, how did you guys have this information."

"I am older than you, or was more aware than you, and I saw the information before the government hid it and turned a historical record into a conspiracy theory."

"ANOTHER PERSON CONVENIENTLY SAYING THERE WAS INFORMATION AND NOW THERE ISN'T!!! DON'T LISTEN!!!"

Basically the prompt is "explain to me what makes a conspiracy theory", and the comments are saying "IT'S A CONSPIRACY THEORY!!!" in response to people sharing what makes a conspiracy theory...

[–] PlasterAnalyst@kbin.social -2 points 9 months ago

Like you said, it's a theory you can look at available data and draw conclusions. The term "conspiracy theory" is used to make anybody they want look less credible.

We know that the government was aware of something that was going to happen in 9/11 but they say they didn't have enough information. We also know that the government allowed perl harbor to happen so they could have an excuse to join the war. Did the government know what was going to happen on 9/11 and intentionally allowed it to happen? I'm sure I found dig up compelling information. We already know what happened in response to 9/11.

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