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Have the not learned anything? In 30 years of windows releases???

To get customers to upgrade, they have to release Windows 12. We only upgrade every other major version, because every other major version is terrible. Including W11.

they did convince me to upgrade to linux mint 22 tho

I got Windows 11 just because my work pc was Win 11. I learned where everything got moved. I use Bazzite Linux at home now. Loving it. Learned a lot and I'm still learning. Now I need to learn how to overwrite Windows 11 with an older version without fudging my GRUB (again, I really don't like having to fix that thing)

It convinced me to ditch dual booting and to go full Linux

Microsoft has given users fair warning, and said that users can get a year of updates for free but eventually the company will have to face facts and extended support beyond October.

We can’t recall a time where Microsoft has done such a thing but these are extenuating circumstances given that most users just aren’t budging.

WTF is this guy talking about? Far as I can tell this is the Win7 playbook all over again. Looking it up, this was the timeline:

Jan. 13, 2015: Microsoft ended Mainstream Support for Windows 7.

Sept. 6, 2018: Microsoft announced the ESUs for Windows 7. The ESU program is a paid service that provides critical security updates for legacy products for up to three years after Extended Support ends.

August 2019: Microsoft announced a year of free ESUs, but only for select users, including customers with an Enterprise Agreement or Enterprise Agreement Subscription with active Windows 10 Enterprise E5, Microsoft 365 E5, or Microsoft 365 E5 Security subscriptions. This was limited to only Government E5 stock keeping units.

Jan. 14, 2020: Microsoft ended Extended Support for Windows 7.

Jan. 10, 2023: The ESUs reached their end of life on the first Patch Tuesday of 2023.

That's almost a decade of post-end of support updates. If anything, MS confirmed ESU before trying to shut down home user patches this time, so it looks less like terrified backpedalling. And as the linked article itself admits, the data they're reporting on shows a significant number of users still on Win7. The article waves it away as just "too many", but the original report says 8.5%.

Because, as it turns out, the kind of people using Kapersky antivirus software and the number of people who would not upgrade from a 16 year old OS that has lost support half a dozen times over the past half a decade show significant overlap. In the Steam survey right now Win 7 is only 0.07%, for reference.

While we're at it Win 11 is 60% vs 35% for Win 10. For all the headlines when Steam shows Linux growth you don't often hear over here that Win 11 went up by 0.5% and Windows overall went up by 0.36%, although it's worth noting that Windows has been pretty stable between 94 and 96% since the survey started.

I've said it before and I'll keep reality checking it: the Win 10 end of support process has been wildly overhyped, particularly among Linux-friendly circles. It is not meaningfully different to moves out of other "good" versions of Windows and it's not a catastrophic crisis point for MS, for better and worse. They'll keep support up for the people who need it for as long as they're willing to pay and most legacy home users won't even know their old Win10 is unsupported because it'll just keep happily chugging along with all the same malware it already has until something breaks and they have to buy a new laptop with a preinstalled Win11 or 12 or whatever.

The most the Win10 death hype is doing to hurt MS is create a flurry of social media posts that can convince tech savvy, Linux-curious users who were previously held back by lack of gaming support to give user friendly distros a try.

Yeah, because if I did then in another 5 years it would be the same thing with Windows 12. Then 13. And so on. So I'm ditching Microsoft entirely in October and moving onto Mint.

$10 says a future win10 update includes a killswitch. If it hasn't already

Wait...
Excluding half of the active PCs or so from upgrade due to arbitrary hardware constraints didn't push upgrading?
How can this be??? 😯🫢

Win 11 launcher is pure shit.

For anyone that refuses to downgrade win10 to win11 and still wants to be secure running windows, 0Patch will cover your computer for 25eur/computer/year.

I've never used them, but a security researcher I follow regularly promoted them since they've been doing this for systems for a good while (I think win7 was the first one they did) and are able to apply their micropatches in memory.

Definitely worth a look if you don't want to upgrade to Linux while not downgrading to win11.

I literally can't. And I'm not buying new hardware just to make the switch.

Hahahahah. "Upgrade."

Read the room, Microsoft.

That is such a dumb clickbait title made to be fueled by emotions.

Who are those folks that can't be convinced? Because it sure as hell aren't the businesses who are moving all their Windows 10 PCs over to Windows 11.

Do they mean the consumer users? The ones who would still be on Windows XP if it weren't for Microsoft forcing their updates? Who only update when they get a new computer and postpone every update because they don't care about being on an insecure OS?

The ones who could be convinced already are on Windows 11. The rest Microsoft doesn't care about. Yes, this includes Linux users.

I got your upgrade right...

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