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[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 49 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (4 children)

The official support for Windows 10 ends on Oct 14, 2025. Give new life to your old computer. Save money and install Linux: https://endof10.org/

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[–] massacre@lemmy.world 52 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Have they tried not being spyware?

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Imo, even taking away the spying thing, windows design is just awful and they somehow manage to pile up fuckups and poor choices as they release new OSs.

[–] Alatain@lemmy.world 9 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

It pretty much comes down to wanting to monetize the user experience instead of simply wanting to charge for the OS in the traditional way. The user becomes the commodity instead of the software.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 9 hours ago

they will try to force it for people that isnt saavy enough to use another OS,.

[–] selkiesidhe@sh.itjust.works 39 points 21 hours ago

Stop forcing shit no one wants on your users then!

Every fucking update... Hey let's backup your stuff. Hey wanna backup your stuff? Let's backup your stuff! We totally won't hold it hostage if you stop paying us lol!

🤬

[–] Chivera@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago

They allow you to enroll in extended updates so you can get more time to upgrade 🤣

[–] zerofk@lemmy.zip 95 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The risk for both general and corporate business users far outweighs any minor inconveniences of moving to a new OS version.

Minor inconveniences like HAVING TO BUY A WHOLE NEW FUCKING COMPUTER.

These people live in a fantasy world.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 35 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Other minor inconveniences may include:

  • AI spyware on systems (a very real issue with corporate and government machines)
  • Legacy software not working in the new OS
  • A drastic decrease in OS productivity
  • Damage to hardware (potential as reported)
[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 20 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Left out being nagged to death about other products and services microsoft thinks you should buy.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 7 points 20 hours ago

Oh but that is a feature!

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What? Don't you guys have money?

[–] Tja@programming.dev 2 points 12 hours ago

Just stop being poor, duh!

[–] Mvlad88@lemmy.world 48 points 23 hours ago

I successfully upgraded from Windows 10 to Linux Mint.

[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 53 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Microsoft was successful in convincing me to upgrade to Mint however.

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[–] tomkatt@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago

I upgraded from Windows 11 to EndeavourOS. No regrets, it’s a huge improvement.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 15 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Replace that with "will never"....except at work because most* CEOs are stupid.

[–] wer2@lemmy.zip 6 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

My work upgraded to Windows 11, now I have lag for a right click menu to appear, and once it does individual items (like Open with Notepad++) just show up as "Loading..." for several more seconds.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 2 points 14 hours ago

Yeah, that whole thing is just such a waste of time. Microsoft is trying to trap as many companies as possible like Google did for individual people in gmail.

I think its

[–] Xed@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 21 hours ago

I’m glad I’ve done away with Windows and Word/ office products for a very long time. Good riddance

[–] User79185@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 22 hours ago

I mean... they force to upgrade people to OS with critical SSD issues.

[–] ZiemekZ@lemmy.world 107 points 1 day ago (12 children)

I'm upgrading to Debian 13 instead, since 13 is bigger number than 11 so obviously it's better

[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Jokin' aside, I am thinking to upgrading to forky (14), if it gets newer Nvidia drivers, because of a single issue I have with Wayland on Plasma (that is X applications flickering like crazy). Alternatively upgrading just kernel and nvidia drivers (to testing or sid) if it is possible without breaking whole system.

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[–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 201 points 1 day ago (37 children)

I sidestepped to Mint. Sorry, Microsoft, your shit’s untenable and disappointing.

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[–] wshrader@lemmy.today 17 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Had to use Rufus to even install it on a ThinkPad which works perfectly. Drivers and all.

Maybe they should stop trying to be like Apple. You can’t limit upgrades then complain about no one upgrading.

[–] kadup@lemmy.world 29 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

They're not limiting it because they're worried about performance or drivers.

They're limiting it because they want to force people into SecureBoot, TPM, and CPUs with several remote control management firmware, because this way they're one stop closer to a fully closed down chain from boot to OS which allows for aggressive DRM and no escape from their ecosystem. Just like at how iOS works and the path Android has been going for the last five years.

The fact the PC ecosystem is open is a left over from the origins in the era before capitalism realized that trapping people into their digital landscapes was profitable, and they have been trying everything to make this go away. Microsoft's wet dream is your PC becoming the same as your smart TV: a data harvesting, ad filled generic piece of hardware that can only display what they want you to see.

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[–] Gamoc@lemmy.world 93 points 1 day ago

They're not trying to get me to upgrade my OS, they're trying to get me to buy a whole new fucking system for no good reason. Every last one of them can die in a fire.

And that's before we consider that Windows 11 is actually a downgrade.

[–] troed@fedia.io 145 points 1 day ago (22 children)

My elderly parents got the "your computer cannot be upgraded" and my somewhat tech-litterate mom asked me to move them to Linux.

Microsoft should've realised at some point that the only thing most people need today is a computer that can run a web browser and connect to a printer.

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[–] ThermonuclearCactus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The virtual machine I installed windows on to play games with kernel-level anticheat and other such spyware apparently isn't compatible with windows 11. That's a positive for 2 reasons, which are:

  1. It can't run Windows 11, so no risk of a forced upgrade
  2. Windows won't constantly harass me to upgrade.

10/10 experience, would not give give Windows access to bare metal again.

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[–] DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 58 points 1 day ago (16 children)

Looking at it from a perspective other than "Windows shit, use Linux", MS' biggest issue here is that the vast majority have no compelling reason to upgrade. Currently.

To the average punter, W11 offers nothing that W10 doesn't already have. There's no new technologies that they care about, no new tentpole software that they're dying to try. Nothing. It has copilot running rampant through it, but most people don't know what that is or don't give a shit.

Give Apple their due, when they announce an OS update, they focus hard on the ways it improves over the current offering. Ways it can interact with your other devices, for example. Or even just a whole new design.

But MS advertise nothing beyond "This is new, come get it!", then wonder why no one cares.

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 4 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

And also, please correct me if I'm wrong, but whenever Apple releases a new MacOS version they don't put fullscreen nag messages on your machine...

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[–] ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip 43 points 1 day ago

Help! Our unsustainable behavior of screwing over customers in the name of quarterly profits has finally caught up to us! Turns out there are long term consequences of our behavior, and now Linux can truly go toe-to-toe with Windows on a home desktop!

[–] m3t00@lemmy.world 9 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

beatings will continue until morale improves

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