They can't convince me to switch to Win 11 because apparently my computer isn't good enough.
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I have win 11. I only use it as a steam game machine and sometimes vr games.
If I'm ever required to reformat I'll probably try IoT Enterprise LTSC. Unsure how video game friendly the version is though.
IoT Enterprise works just fine. That said, I still don't trust Microsoft - it still insists on forced updates and reboots, and likely AI, down the line.
I am figuring on switching to SteamOS Desktop, once that is released.
Just go SteamOS or Bazzite. Make shit easy on yourself.
I'm one of the few whose laptop is about 10 years old so it needs replacing. Most likely a new laptop will be preloaded with windows 11. Do they sell laptops pre-loaded with Linux?
eBay has tons of off-lease/refurbished computers for pennies on the dollar. Hard format the drive, install your distro, and you're off and running.
I remember hearing about System76 a while back. They manage Pop!_OS which comes preloaded on their stuff. I don't know much more than that. If you are mainly looking to replace your laptop because you don't want to switch to 11, you could always try out Linux on it with a live USB. Basically you format a thumb drive to act as a boot drive. There are resources online on how to do it and it's pretty simple. It doesn't mess with your current install. If you like it, you can fully install it later.
You can get a laptop with no OS preinstalled just about everywhere.
Depending on your budget, there's the Framework laptops.
Edit: I want to add... What I did, was go to an opshop, get a laptop there, and wipe it for Linux. I got a decent laptop at a decent price, saved a little on ewaste for the world, helped a local opshop make a little money, and not contributed to any corpo greed.
Installing linux yourself is dead easy. I would just buy a Windows laptop and wipe the drive
I don't want Microsoft to have the win of selling even 1 license.
Buy refurb then, it's what I did and it's super fast. Returns are diminishing these days and your money will go further.
There are some companies that sell hardware with Linux pre-installed. The bigger companies that do are Dell and Lenovo. Maybe some others I am not aware of. If you want to support a smaller company that also sells Linux preinstalled, you should look into System76 and Framework. I would not be surprised if there are others as well.
If you are feeling up to it, I think it’s a great idea to watch some videos regarding installing a Linux distribution on your own and doing it that way. It isn’t very difficult (You may have to adjust some BIOS settings for example) and many distributions guide you in keeping a windows install and Linux install at the same time dual boot style if you want a back up Windows install. It will be a good first step in learning a little about how Linux works so you can figure out any issues more easily if they happen to come up.
I switched to Linux primarily last year, and other than some distro hopping to find my right fit, I haven’t looked back and I don’t plan on it.
There are some companies that sell hardware with Linux pre-installed. The bigger companies that do are Dell and Lenovo.
Last time I checked, admittedly years ago, I was irritated at paying the same price as for the windows version of the same hardware. Why do I still need to pay the Microsoft tax and who’s getting it?
- Worse drivers.
- More bloat.
- More "telemetry" (spyware and adware).
- It breaks a ton of the systems I've had to implement by sheer force.
Why the FUCK would I do that? Just to give microsoft more money? Go and FUCK yourself.
Don't forget AI shoved down your throat that takes goddamn screen captures without any care of what sensitive infor,ation may be displayed and processes it to reme,bet everything your do. It's goddamn 1984.
Microsoft also works with American intelligence, like other corporations. They won't even fix zero day exploits without first letting the NSA know in advance. Telecoms have black rooms whose entire purpose is to siphon data directly to the authorities, Microsoft probably has a whole building.
I mean, it's windows 10, but worse
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If you have 8gb or less of RAM, it's constantly swapping and trash your SSD
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It always needs to automatically install the fucking updates in the background hogging the CPU and SSD time when you actually need to work/play
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When they introduce bugs, they take years to fix them. The taskbar took 3 years to be restored to features that were present since windows 95. One year ago they introduced a new bug that with some display port monitors, when it goes in standby, the resolution switches for a second to 640*480, trashing all windows and desktop layout, super infuriating. Probably this will be fixed in windows 12
Plus with all their decision to force people to trash millions of perfectly working computers... I know many they just give up on personal computers and just use phones/tablet as it's enough for them
The updates are off the fucking charts. Constantly updating/breaking services and apps are useless literally until you reboot. They really took the "reboot will fix it" and ran as far as they could go.
Four updates (and consequent reboots) in one week. Wtf
Imagine having to tell hundreds of clients you have to reboot your computer at least once a week for it to work. Fucking pathetic.
I don't have to imagine. I literally do this. Is pathetic. I'm over here with my fully update Linux box that I hadn't had to reboot in months, telling windows users to reboot "at least once a week" and that "shutdown is not the same as reboot".
Oh I forgot about the shutdown not actually processing updates. Lmao. What a clown show.
Android phones are picking up this reboot trend also... 😐
Google Android, maybe. AOSP ROM, not so much.
I'm grateful. It was the push I needed to stop using windows.
If they'd made it even vaguely tempting I probably wouldn't have bothered.
It's the new Windows 8.
At least we could skip w8
Time to upgrade to Linux.
Cool site! Didn't know it existed, and I was pleased to see that there are people out there willing to "fingers on the keyboard" assist those who want to switch but don't know how.
Mandatory secure boot is the thing. Before I get a new motherboard and CPU I’ll just get Linux. Gaming works great there, and those 3 things I actually need Microsoft for can be used in a VM
It was so unconvincing I switched to Linux
I have had Linux for more than a year now, a universal blue managed one, I have forgotten what updates are even. Games play great, coding is super easy. Windows only exist because consumers are ignorant, but that can be said about most of capitalism.
Even if I had wanted to upgrade, I wouldn't be able to, since Microsoft needs hardware mg computer doesn't have. I can't imagine most people would care enough to even think about that. They'd just keep using the computer until it no longer worked, and in the modern day, that will take a lot longer than it would have a decade or two ago.
I'm talking out of my ass, but I believe they couldn't really convince the non-techies to upgrade from 7 & 8 to 10 either.
The average Joe doesn't give a shit. They simply booted their computer one day and oops, it had upgraded itself to 10.
Microsoft could have almost this entire userbase on 11 by now without them even knowing thanks to 10's automatic updating, but nooooooo they just had to require TPM or some shit.
I kind of thought that was the only real difference with 11: requiring the tpm
That happened to my mother. Now she wants me to fix that shit and I just tell her I don't know how to.
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Microsoft 'Convinced' me to move to Linux, best move I've ever done.
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