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This afternoon Israel committed yet another terrorist atrocity when it bombed the building hosting Gaza’s peace negotiators in Doha, Qatar. Doha – RAF refuelling plane was circling

Now, flight tracker data shows that an RAF refuelling aircraft was circling overhead as Israel was bombing Doha:

The distance from Israel to Doha is approximately 2,200km – around the same as the total range of the F35 strike aircraft used by Israel – meaning that the jets would need in-flight refuelling to return to Israel.

Questions were raised – and not yet answered by the Starmer regime – about the RAF’s involvement in the murder of six journalists bombed by Israel in Gaza, after similar tracking showed an RAF plane circling over the attack location.

This new data raises the same possibility that the Starmer regime has gone beyond political cover, spy flights and a lawfare war on UK rights of protest and free speech in it’s collusion in Israel’s genocide – into active collaboration in an act of war on the sovereign territory of a nation hosting supposed peace talks.

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[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Qatar said this was a scheduled refueling training with the UK. So this is probably nothing unless they fully coordinated their own bombing with Israel.

[–] Tweak@feddit.uk 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah I mean if they were actually refuelling Israeli planes this close then I think they would have been called out more directly.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I'm so tired of seeing the Canary push this conspiracy theory.

The UK and Israel use completely different (i.e. incompatible) fuelling systems.

This is likely a routine training flight with the Qatari air force, something we do frequently.

E: I was correct:

A British Royal Air Force (RAF) plane spotted over Doha on Monday, around the time of Israel’s surprise strike on the Qatari capital, was participating in an annual joint military exercise and not involved in the attack, according to flight tracker data.

The RAF Voyager KC3 tanker was conducting air-to-air refuelling drills as part of "Soaring Falcon", a regular UK-Qatar exercise, when Israeli fighter jets targeted a meeting of senior Hamas officials in Doha.

Can the UK ever do anything right in The Canary's eyes? The UK is helping the country that Israel carried out an attack on, and still gets accused of helping Israel.

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Wait, is this something the Canary has said before? During the Israeli attacks on Iran or something?

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

They talked of the refueling planes that Palestine Action destroyed the engines of as if they were used to refuel Israeli jets, which was never the case. It was debunked ages ago that the RAF refuel Israeli jets, but they're continuing to say it nonetheless, because they know there's no real repercussions to lying.

Same crap the daily mail, express, etc do.

I'm not certain if they mentioned it in regards to Israel's Iran strikes

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't think this theory holds up

  • The flight in question returned to Al Udeid air base at 1405, over an hour and a half before the explosions. For it to have refuelled the Israeli jets they'd have to have just been hanging about off the coast of Doha for all that time
  • The air base it's flying out of is a Qatari one, meaning the tanker would have had to return to the Qatari base immediately after facilitating an attack on Qatar right in Qatar's line of sight
  • An RAF tanker flew the same route at the same time for several days beforehand, so it doesn't seem like this was an unusual one
  • Israel has plenty of its own tankers
  • Surely the Israeli jets would not have refuelled right outside their target?

On top of that, 2,200 km is not the distance for a plane to fly from Israel to Qatar, it's the distance for a car to drive. It's 400 km less than that in a straight line, or 300 km less if you want to approach Qatar by flying over the Persian Gulf

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

All that is good but it’s quicker to point out that Israeli jets are incompatible with British tankers.

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 3 points 1 day ago

Also that, but I didn't know about it when I wrote this and it wasn't something that I thought to check

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 18 points 3 days ago

One problem with this story: the UK and Israel use different, incompatible midair refuelling systems (Israel uses the US one, IIRC).