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This is actually from 2022, but I missed it back in the day. This is quite important research imo, and very relevant lately. Link to the paper itself: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0747563222001637

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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 14 hours ago

I would think repression is worse for people but it’s neat.

[–] DigDoug@lemmy.world 67 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

It's almost like sex is a natural part of human existence and it being taboo is the bit that really fucks people up.

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[–] jmsy@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

As a dude, I exclusively use female characters to get gifts in multi-player games

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world -4 points 10 hours ago (10 children)

I dunno if it’s just cause I’m older, but sex scenes in games and movies seem so unnecessary, what are they even there for? I was playing cyberpunk and nudity isnt a big deal but why were those sexually explicit ads necessary to the story?

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[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 13 hours ago (8 children)

now do a research on the effect of lolis (young sexualized girls) in japanese media and whether it has an effect. i wouldn't be surprised if the outcomes were similar, yet lots of people still whine about it.

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[–] Runaway@lemmy.zip 59 points 1 day ago (35 children)

I mean sexualized movies with skimpy ladies and jacked dudes, and smut books are not harmful broadly speaking, so I don't really see why video games would be different.

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[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 162 points 1 day ago (9 children)

if someone is not able to distinguish between fiction (regardless of the medium) and reality, then the problem is much deeper than pearl-clutching religious fanatics insist on believing, and will NOT be solved by abolishing all the "bad" fiction

i would argue that religion itself plays a large part in developing these problematic attitudes from early childhood, especially towards sex

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 103 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You mean constantly displaying sexuality as evil and interest in it as sinful leads to a unhealthy sexuality? Say it ain't so

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 40 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
  1. set the rules in opposition to fundamental human (i.e., mammalian) instincts
    1b. punishment is unimaginable suffering for eternity
  2. everyone lives a guilt-ridden life full of shame
  3. leverage for control in every aspect of life (i.e., slave congregation)
  4. ???
  5. profit. a fucking lot

side effects of psychological damage, suicide, sociopathic tendencies, etc. don't matter in the slightest to the people collecting your tithes and controlling your behavior-- so, rather the same as social media

tl;dr: people in a perpetual state of unfulfillable desire are easy to control

[–] Nima@leminal.space 43 points 1 day ago (2 children)

i think if less tolerance for religion became more commonplace, it might be better for mental health in general honestly.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I think the issue is not "religion" because that's hard to define. What do you count as a religion and what not? It's kinda not clearly defined. I.e., you can "believe" in science, yet does the belief make it a religion?

I think what's more the issue is the fact that people cling to nonsensical statements and are unwilling to look at things the way they are. I.e. a recurring theme of religion is that it absolves people from thinking, i.e. from making their own thoughts and relating those to reality. That is the thing that must be dealt with.

In other words, people must be taught to think and analyze the world around (and inside of) them. That is what leads to wellbeing and happyness.

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[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Funny, but this just poses further questions. I.e. is it the absence of religion that causes wellbeing, or is it wellbeing that causes the absence of religion?

I was told the story by a stranger once: The reason why people cling to religion is because they are unable to live their own life, i.e. they struggle and can't live in the moment, because it would be too depressing, so they cling to religion to seek an escape. Religion absolves them from thinking and therefore from recognizing the world around them, and so it's an escape. So, in this view, bad times cause religion, but not the other way around. At least it's one possible explanation. I don't know whether it's true.

I'm just saying, don't confuse correlation with causality. Correlation does not imply causality in general. (though in this case it probably does)

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[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 39 points 1 day ago (26 children)

Skimming their data tables (don't have access to the journal outside of work), it feels like a really broad hodge pdge of semi-related studies (which the authors essentially admitted).

But it also kind of misses the point. The problem isn't titties or dicks in video games. The problem is the culture around it and what it reinforces and it very much goes far beyond video games. Big jiggly titties? You are a mature game. Dick size slider so you can rock a magnum dong that needs a monster condom? You are progressive. What? Both of those are just more male gaze?

And all of that is normalized. You won't see a significant change from the baseline because that IS the baseline.

You know what you almost never see (outside of those "problematic gay games that turn the kids into litter boxes")? A sexy twink. We all made the same joke about Lies of Timothee Chalamet being one of the better souslikes of the past decade but it is also very telling that we mostly see our twinks in full stillsuits or twelve layers of Victorian clothing. Look, but have enough chastity belts that nobody needs to be worried about being able to touch. And the moment you have a woman who doesn't have an hourglass figure? See: The Last Of Us 2.

Which is the issue. We have a cult of toxic misogyny that insists everything MUST be male gaze and the only acceptable nudity is big titty girls and guys who look like Ahnold. And any divergence from that is "ruining games" or "being woke" to the point that we don't even GET those games outside of the rare case of a game nobody cared about becoming popular (I'll always cite that Yasuke was a recurring character in Nioh long before people turned him into a culture war).

Its like saying that gas stoves cause no meaningful decrease in air quality but having every study take place in the home of a pack a day smoker.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world -1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

And any divergence from that is “ruining games” or “being woke” to the point that we don’t even GET those games outside of the rare case of a game nobody cared about becoming popular

I would argue the origin is sales. E.G. the publisher wants the sex appeal to sell, so that's what they put in the game. Early 'bro' devs may be a part of this, but the directive from up top is the crux of it.

And that got so normalized, it became what gamers expect. And now they whine like toddlers when anyone tries to change it, but that just happens to be an existing problem conservative movements jumped on after the fact.


TL;DR the root cause is billionares.

Like aways.

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[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You know what you almost never see (outside of those “problematic gay games that turn the kids into litter boxes”)? A sexy twink.

So you never played JRPGs ?

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[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 75 points 2 days ago

It's almost like there's another reason for censorship

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