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Kathmandu is on edge not because of “apps,” but because a generation raised on the promise of democracy and mobility has collided with an economy and political order that keep shutting every door.

It is tempting – especially from afar – to narrate this as a clash over digital freedoms. That would be analytically thin. For Gen-Z Nepalis, platforms are not just entertainment; they are job boards, news wires, organizing tools, and social lifelines. Shutting them off – after years of economic drift – felt like collective punishment. But the deeper story is structural: Nepal’s growth has been stabilized by remittances rather than transformed by domestic investment capable of producing dignified work. In FY 2024/25, the Department of Foreign Employment issued 839,266 exit labor permits – staggering out-migration for a country of ~30 million. Remittances hovered around 33% of GDP in 2024, among the highest ratios worldwide. These numbers speak to survival, not social progress; they are a referendum on a model that exports its youth to low-wage contracts while importing basics, and that depends on patronage rather than productivity

Following Nepal’s four-year IMF Extended Credit Facility (ECF) program, the government faced pressure to boost domestic revenue. This led to a new Digital Services Tax and stricter VAT rules for foreign e-service providers, but when major platforms refused to register, the state escalated by blocking them. This move, which began as a tax enforcement effort, quickly became a tool of digital control, and it occurred as the public was already dealing with rising fuel costs and economic hardships driven by the program’s push for fiscal consolidation.

That the crackdown and its political finale unfolded under a CPN (UML) prime minister makes this a strategic calamity for Nepal’s left. Years of factional splits, opportunistic coalitions, and policy drift had already eroded credibility among the young. When a left-branded government narrows civic space instead of widening material opportunity, it cedes the moral terrain to actors who thrive on anti-party cynicism – individual-cult politics and a resurgent monarchist right. The latter has mobilized visibly this year; with Oli’s resignation, it will seek to portray itself as the guarantor of “order,” even as its economic vision remains thin and regressive. This is the danger: the very forces most hostile to egalitarian transformation can capitalize on left misgovernance to expand their footprint.

Opposition statements recognized the larger canvas sooner than the government did. Pushpa Kamal Dahal (Prachanda) expressed condolences, urged action on anti-corruption demands, and called for removing “sanctions on social networks.” The CPN (Unified Socialist) and CPN (Maoist Center) statements condemned the repression, demanded an impartial investigation, and linked digital curbs to failures on jobs and governance.

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[–] Kopfrkingl@hexbear.net 11 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I'd like to add some more points to this discussion. Nepal is a country with the median age of 25, youth unemployment rate around 25 percent, and an incredibly inefficient government. Western media trying to frame it as a protest over a social media ban is laughable to say the least. It didn't help that the PM decided it would be a good idea to: mock the youth for, and I quote, "Valuing the jobs of a handful over national sovereignity" when they complained about the restrictions on social media, he then proceeded to let the police to open-fire at protestors, and not peacefully resign when it was clear that shit wouldn't settle down. There is a reason police don't use lethal force on protestors but here the geniuses in charge decided it would be fine to shoot kids.

There have been massive fucking scandals from the highest echelons of the political sphere in the past few years, some egregious ones being: scamming 800 people by presenting them as Bhutanese refugees to resettle in other countries, perpetrated by the home secretary and very likely linked to the minister of foreign affairs, transferring government land to private ownership by a collusion between members of the Congress and CPN ML party and big business owners.

Imagine living in a country where you can't find a job, the GDP per capita is half that of India, politicians are clearly in their posts to squeeze as much money from it as fucking possible and, on top of that, the children of politicians, even those of lower ranks, are regularly flaunting their wealth on social media.

Trying to present the social media bill itself as logical would be valid if not for the fact that it is clearly a subterfuge to allow the government to remove things they don't like, things that they deem, in many vague words, "violations against national security, integrity and hate speech concerns" or things that don't "align with cultural values". Reminder that the previous tiktok ban was under the pretext of "protecting social harmony" and blocking "harmful content and influence on youth".

Nevertheless, I am reasonably certain at this point that after the first few burnings the revolt got co-opted, which resulted in the release of thousands of prisoners including the clown Lamichhane and a break-in into a police station that lead to guns getting out — he was in prison for embezzling cooperative funds alongside a group of other polticians and cooperative owners by the way, this shows how rotten the entire establishment is.

Also, there is no concrete leadership so a group of zoomies are in a live call in a discord server — fucking lol — about what to do going forward, with some incredibly naïve takes. Another thing that points to a three letter agency psyop is the fact that people refer to "decisions made by Gen-Z", something without a figure-head for some reason; and I'm pretty sure that it doesn't refer to the discord call zoomers.

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 14 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Following Nepal’s four-year IMF Extended Credit Facility cia

Is this another Maidan? This came out of nowhere and on the foot of tensions between east and west conviently located in a buffer state. It's easy for those in the middle with little lived experience to see it from the outside but I hope Nepalese understand that what they think is going to be an accountable followup centered on "free speech" just very well be a western stooge that cracks down on entire subsets of the population and is even worse.

Be very weary of some rushed figure - especially some local two bit celebrity that is ready to lead. zelensky-pain

[–] xarm@hexbear.net 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

there is already a local two bit celebrity ready to lead lol. Can look into Rabi Lamichhane

Dude came straight from US (some talk about him fleeing US due to debt) and even managed to enter political. Even managed to become home minister (under Prachanda's) for a while but he really angered the establishment (KP Oli, Sher Bahadur) since he claimed to bring change, development, and every other buzz word. His would platform was the old system was corrupt and it needs to change.

He was 100% just an opportunistic that pissed off wrong people in wrong time. He is also neck deep in many many scandals and was in prison until yesterday. Now he would have been the perfect person with everyone's support behind him but ironically his greatest achievement of getting the Home Minister position has lead to suspicion and distrust, since it showed his willingness to coexist with thr establishment. Now people just want him back in jail since the charges all seems legit.

Also think he is suspicion af, maybe not related CIA but won't hesitate to sell out

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 6 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Lamichhane rose to fame as the host of a television show i-cant

Nationality - American 2007-2017 freedom-and-democracy

His wife

Former chairperson of the Film Development Board part of the Asian Film Comission Network (HQ Busan Korea)

Board of Directors

  • president - Korea

  • VP - Taiwan

  • VP - Japan

  • Board Members - Philippines, Cambodia, Indonesia, Jordan, Nepal

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Shah moved to the United States, and Poudel has largely remained absent from her daughter’s life. In 2019, she married Rabi Lamichhane, a media personality and politician, registering their marriage amid growing media attention.

Both Nikita Poudel and Rabi Lamichhane are divorcees with children from previous marriages. None of their children lives with them, and the couple has faced criticism for neglecting parental responsibilities and remaining distant from their children's upbringing

Cookie cutter gusanos

[–] Kopfrkingl@hexbear.net 3 points 1 hour ago

Ironically his show was about exposing people that scammed and preyed on poor people and corruption in the lower political ranks; which is the entire reason why he gained so much popularity and won when he ran for election. After which he proceeded to scam thousands by embezzling cooperative funds leaving many people destitute.

[–] HarryLime@hexbear.net 29 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

The proximate trigger was regulatory: the government ordered 26 major social-media platforms to register locally and began blocking those deemed non-compliant, including Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, WhatsApp, X, and others. Crowds surged toward Parliament; police deployed tear gas, rubber bullets and, in several places, live fire. By late 9 September, at least 19 people were killed and well over 300 injured. Under pressure, the government lifted the social-media ban and Prime Minister KP Sharma Oli resigned.

Protests that burn the Parliament over a bunch of western social media apps being regulated is NOT a good sign

[–] omegathrowaway@lemmy.ml 12 points 7 hours ago

It actively halted any potential communication method between business and families, not just teens

It's an extreme response specifically for this, but it's not just because of this that the people essentially had a revolution, the government clearly pissed everyone off for years at this point

[–] D61@hexbear.net 28 points 14 hours ago

Basically all ways to engage in an informal economy and keep in regular communication with your people.

So, for us Westerners, it would be something like a ban on all cell phone service or cell phones because the technology has some Chinese components. You can no longer log into your credit card company's website because of 2FA. Your work's HR might have made it a requirement to have a 3rd party app installed on your phone where you get your schedule for the next week, so now what the fuck do you do. Being able to have a family members quickly Venmo cash to each other when in need, at the moment it is needed, is now gone.

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 24 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

"Proximate" is very important to that statement, because there were many other longstanding concerns like the article tries to stress, and I think it's more accurate to say that it was the proximate trigger of the initial protest, and the cool zone was entered when the state killed over a dozen people and wounded hundreds more at that protest, including children.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 20 points 15 hours ago

"Proximate" is very important to that statement, because there were many other longstanding concerns like the article tries to stress, and I think it's more accurate to say that it was the proximate trigger of the initial protest, and the cool zone was entered when the state killed over a dozen people and wounded hundreds more at that protest, including children.

General discontent was Ukraine's protest and it would've blown over had unknown gunmen not shot a bunch of innocent people turning it from maidan protest to maidan revolution/coup.

In fact, a catalyst in most major revolutions has been a massacre of innocent people protesting resulting in events moving up to the next level.

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 17 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

I don't support a protest that's tearing down communist flags but also someone* said that shit like whatsapp is used by like everybody so shutting it down is like "you can't make a living anymore" and not "you can't have your media treats"

*in another thread talking about this earlier today

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 19 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I completely support a protest that's tearing down "communist flags" if the flags are of parties that clearly aren't substantively communist.

[–] gayspacemarxist@hexbear.net 12 points 12 hours ago

Huge agree. A political party can call themselves anything. We are only "on the same side" if the party actually represents the interests of the working class.

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Particularly when the opposition that will likely take power are the Maoists. If anything this is a massive blow to the centre left in the Congress and the right wing of the alleged Marxist-Leninists.

[–] blobjim@hexbear.net 4 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Particularly when the opposition that will likely take power are the Maoists

What makes you think that?

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

MC are the only one left, they were also largely correct in critiquing both the corruption in UML and their coalition with the SucDems in the Congress Party. On the other hand they have their own flaws. They're at least nominally heavily influenced in Gonzalist thought (which found more fertile ground against an absolute monarchy in an agrarian state) and that can lead to some excessively Ultra takes on occasion

There's also the United Socialists who are a UML breakaway and in informal coalition with MC, being the faction that supported the short lived unification.

But honestly I want all three to overcome their differences, since I think even many UML cadre are communists in good faith.

Some say that the Monarchists might take advantage but that's unlikely given that they're only barely stopping Maoist Centre from rearming as it is.

[–] jack@hexbear.net 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Some sort of MC-US coalition seems like the best immediate outcome here, since there doesn't seem to be any truly revolutionary organization leading the movement. The Maoists could turn back to that, I suppose, if you're right about them being on the verge of rearming any minute. You'd think they would have been ready when this popped off then, though.

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

They've been very restrained and quite happy to let the MLs and especially the Congress shit the bed all on their own. This is at least partially because the current coalition was goading them into rearming in parliamentary debates, as a way of claiming they were violent radicals without a real praxis. Also the Maoists don't have as much of an Urban base due to the whole being Maoists, so they're relying on the US for urban support (and a significant portion of the protestors are United Socialist aligned) and the US is angling to reabsorb the fragmenting UML.

[–] HamManBad@hexbear.net 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Reading a conversation on this site where the "US" is a positive force and the "MLs" are not is really messing with me right now

[–] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

Nepalese politics is just fucked like that ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[–] xarm@hexbear.net 6 points 10 hours ago

The two largest parties are no more and Maoist were the third largest have been mostly intact

[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

The fact that a society was allowed to become so dependent on a foreign platform that they could not continue functioning without it is a very bad sign. You can't have a country descend into anarchy just because they had their social media turned off. What happens if it's not your own government but a foreign government that controls that social media which decides to turn your access off? It's a huge national security vulnerability as we have just clearly seen. At the very least have an alternative!

And i would argue the same should be true more broadly for the Internet as a whole. If something happened and the entire network went down, you have to have contingencies in place for "business as usual" to keep going, at least in the essential sectors of the economy. Technology is great but we can't become so dependent on technology that we forget how to function without it. Our societies functioned perfectly fine just 100 years ago without any digital technology whatsoever. I fear that nowadays the system is far too fragile.

[–] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 12 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

The solution should be to release your own chat app as an alternative and provide every incentive to get people to move over to that app before blocking the foreign apps. However I'm not sure Nepal has the resources to in house a competitor to WhatsApp.

[–] bobs_guns@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 5 hours ago

WhatsApp is run by fewer people than you think. I believe it could be done. Youtube is the bigger problem as video hosting is more expensive.

[–] xarm@hexbear.net 4 points 10 hours ago

Yeah just the ban on WhatsApp and messenger might not have been so bad since alternative chatapp like Viber still works but there wasn't a real alternative to YouTube, Reddit and Facebook like platform.

Even tho they aren't directly used for communication, most people are still dependent on them for news, information and entertainment

[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

They could outsource development to India. They are culturally and economically quite close.

[–] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 14 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Isn't the point to avoid outsourcing it to a foreign power? Idk if India has a competitor to WhatsApp like China does with WeChat.

[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Doing it all yourself is ideal, but as you pointed out not all countries have the resources and the capability to do it themselves. Going to a neighboring country's software industry and asking them to develop something for you is not the same as using social media that another country outright controls. In this case the end product would still be under your control, you've just paid another country to develop it for you. Yes, there are security risks associated with that too, but not as big as remaining on a US social media ecosystem.

They are not on the level of China but India still has a lot of their own domestically developed apps. So far i don't think they have alternatives to the really big western platforms, but definitely to some of the the smaller, more niche ones. I'm sure they could manage to develop a basic messenger app. You have to remember that India has a very big economy and a big IT industry. The main reason why they haven't developed their own alternatives to the big ones yet is mainly because there is no incentive as long as western platforms dominate. You have to put up protectionist barriers like China's firewall to incentivize domestic development.

[–] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 7 points 12 hours ago

What you're describing is really not a viable business proposal. You can't have a telecommunication platform "developed for you". You could have the mobile app developed for you, but thats usually just a custom XMPP client. The servers absolutely cannot and that's the real product. Those need physical infrastructure, and constant maintenance. You're looking at Indian experts overseeing the physical construction of the servers and actively training Nepalise to maintain the system. And if the Nepalise want to develop it further (which they must) the Indians must sign copyright over to Nepal.

Maybe the UAE could swing that sort of contract but I doubt they would bother with it. They'd probably just license the software so they have some local control but a foreign government maintains ownership over it. At that point forcing the private company to make a local branch that is subject to your laws makes more sense and that's what Nepal tried.

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 8 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah but it's Nepal so you have to consider "is it reasonable to expect them to magic up alternative infrastructure" given that they don't have the manufacturing or tech capability of China

Even if they could you have to understand that you have to force people to switch for it to matter

[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 15 hours ago

At the very least countries that cannot make their own platforms should look for ones outside the control of the West as an alternative. Maybe make a deal with India, China, or Russia to develop something for you based on one of the domestically produced alternatives which exist in those countries.

Making the switch is then a matter of enforcement and incentives. You can go the firewall route or you can subsidize businesses who use local alternatives.