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    Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls β€œthe plateau of sustainability”

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    [–] 0ddysseus@lemmy.world 1 points 44 minutes ago

    Twelve years in, cloud engineer, have Mint on all my home machines cos i dont have to think about it. I like your chart but its dumb.

    [–] vaionko@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago

    I went Kububtu -> Pop -> Arch with Sway -> Fedora KDE -> Arch again, now with KDE. I like Arch, been using it for years now and no interest of switching.

    [–] deczzz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 hours ago

    Where all my cachyOS homes at?

    [–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

    I seem to have skipped most of it.

    [–] maxwells_daemon@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

    "Almost bricks their machine" lol

    It's not an iphone, breaking the boot sequence won't brick it. But sure, go ahead, lecture everyone else...

    [–] voodooattack@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

    If you delete /sys/firmware/efi/efivars/* you can brick your motherboard. If it doesn’t have a recovery mode of some kind then it will be permanently bricked.

    https://www.phoronix.com/news/UEFI-rm-root-directory

    Edit: most modern hardware comes with protections against this nowadays though

    [–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 7 hours ago

    Kubuntu on my desktop, Debian on my server, postmarketOS on my phone. Where do I fit?

    [–] chronotron@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

    The only distro I've ever used is arch.

    [–] Krompus@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

    I hopped around until I found Arch, and it has been rock solid, first time an OS has lasted ten years without needing a reinstall. Windows has never lasted more than two years without shitting itself.

    [–] Routhinator@startrek.website 5 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

    30 years of using Linux and I think this chart is whack. RPM based distros run by enterpises are the worst. I was happier with Slackware than Fedora. 🀣 I only use those when work forces me too and after the CentOS and SLES fiascos - F that noise. I'll only recommend debian for work servers unless there are STIG/FedRAMP security requirements and then it's begrudgingly over to Ubuntu.

    When work isn't in the way: EndeavourOS on my desktop, Debian on my servers, and debian/alpine for my containers or better yet; golang and scratch.

    [–] MITM0@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

    & then people return to PopOS, ubuntu, LinuxMint & Debian.

    [–] Fives@discuss.online 6 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

    This. I’ve gone β€˜round the Cape of Distros and found myself reinstalling Linux Mint on all of my older computers because it just fucking WORKS without complaint or issue.

    Using Fedora on my newer laptop, but for a distro that you don’t have to think about at all and just USE, Mint is hard to beat.

    [–] CannedCairn@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

    Yep, 20 years later I'm running kubuntu again, excited for kde OS though.

    [–] MITM0@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

    Plus the actual knowledgable linux gurus ARE ON Linuxmint, PopOS, debian etc...

    [–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 hours ago

    LMDE πŸ’•

    [–] Renat@szmer.info 2 points 8 hours ago

    I started from Ubuntu. Now I use Mint.

    [–] CaptainHowdy@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 hours ago

    I like to think I'm the right-most Fedora, but some days I'm for sure the other Fedora.

    [–] polle@feddit.org 6 points 13 hours ago

    This is pure rage bait.

    [–] mittorn@masturbated.one 1 points 9 hours ago

    @voodooattack no, guru will create own distro

    [–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 1 points 9 hours ago

    so am at CachyOS (i will say for EndeavourOS cause its also based on Arch,installed on my gaming rig) and Debian + Armbian (on my PI5)

    [–] Vytle@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

    Been using Debian for like 3 years now. No intent of distro hopping.

    [–] hehehe@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
    [–] missfrizzle@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

    between Gentoo and Arch, but so far down the y-axis it clipped off the chart.

    t. masochistic NixOS user

    [–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

    Or it comes as a second low with an even higher peak at the end.

    [–] missfrizzle@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

    yeah! there's a punishing learning curve but it's sooo frikkin powerful once you get it. for my NixOS config on WSL2, I have it cross-compile age-plugin-yubikey for Windows, then stuff the (absolute) path in a wrapper script to use agenix with passage as a git-credential-helper storage, all of which gets set up using home-manager as my default git config. and it all just gets automatically built and configured when I nixos-rebuild switch, so I can sync it to my other machines.

    unfortunately I have no idea how it works anymore lol. that's the problem, it's so resilient I forget how to change it! but I can't imagine doing that in any other Linux distro.

    [–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 23 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
    [–] voodooattack@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

    Canonical: snap snap snap snap snap snap snap snap snap

    [–] Tortellinius@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

    What's the issue with snaps? I'm still on Ubuntu ans abkut to switch to Debian, but for me its pretty chill atm because I don't have to worry about updates or security. I know about the terminal aliases, which could be disclosed better, but it's not that big of a deal to me. I thought it's pretty cool to have a "store" that's curated so I don't have to worry about security, since I use Linux casually.

    [–] voodooattack@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

    I’ll just repost this repost of my personal experience then:

    Here’s my answer to this same question from an old thread on Reddit:

    My Ubuntu system always reserved a whopping 20% of my 32GB ram for no reason and I never bothered to know why. Later I uninstalled snapd because of boot time issues and guess what happened? Only 1.5 GB used after a fresh boot.

    I had like 4 different JetBrains IDEs installed via snap with each totalling around 2GB of disk space. While removing snapd I discovered it kept back 2-3 previous versions of every package on your disk.

    Uninstalling this bloat was the best thing I did to my ubuntu system. It was suddenly light as a feather and way more responsive like I just did a fresh system install.

    Some time later I was installing something from apt and Ubuntu tried to install it from snap, thus sneakily installing snapd in the process. Looking for a solution, I felt like I was looking up how to disable Windows updates or some other shit.

    I had a moment of clarity and wondered why the fuck did I have to put up with this kinda bullshit on Linux. I wiped that drive clean and switched to Fedora.

    Edit: and there’s also flatpak which-despite being awful in some ways-is better than snap in every conceivable way.

    [–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

    I've bricked my installation just by logging into root in openSUSE. I am not touching this shit again. I love my arch

    [–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

    I ve been running SUSE for 3years now, it never broke; when I wqs unhappy with an update O rolles back. This is the chilliest distro in my opinion after trying Mint(2 years) and Debian (2years)

    [–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

    Idk, maybe? It was a real experience like this:

    1. I install system

    2. I have a screen that prompts me to login either as a root or as a user.

    3. I login as a root just because I was to install a lot of software.

    4. I have a black screen and the forums recommend me installing the system again.


    It was waaaay before you started using Linux, maybe 10 years ago?

    [–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 1 points 50 minutes ago

    Oh. Well maybe it wasn't that polished? Yeah i had totally different experience

    [–] hanrahan@piefed.social 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

    Mint... :)

    I had thought of going to Fedora next but I ask myself why !

    [–] ayane@lemmy.vg 20 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

    I am so sick of seeing this ridiculous diagram being labeled the "Dunning-Kruger effect". Go read the actual 1999 paper they wrote. The key takeaway is that the lowest quartile of people tend to overestimate their own performance, and the top quartile underestimate theirs. It doesn't posit anything like this graph, and this is just an ironic example of ignorance.

    And second, I am so sick of seeing these ridiculous distro comparisons. Stop with this elitism, even if done humorously. People of all experience levels can be found using different distros, and they all have unique advantages, disadvantages, and communities built around them. Don't shame the great effort that people put into maintaining and developing distros, repositories, and packages. A noob can use Arch, and a master can use Ubuntu. Use what appeals to you, and be happy in knowing you can experiment or stick to anything. This is the beauty of FOSS and the Linux ecosystem; it's a great place for both tinkerers as well as those who want familiarity. There is no one true way.

    [–] hansolo@lemmy.today 6 points 14 hours ago

    There's a thing across Africa called "joking cousins." Unlike genuine bad-blood tension between different ethnic groups that can often exist, it's a jovial sibling rivalry style of thing. I've always seen the distro thing a bit like that. It gets tiring, but it's sort of hard-coded into human nature to joke about slight differences when we're all in the same tribe.

    Though, this graph is silly for the reasons you mention - I think that might be intentional as part of the joke. It's stupid, so clearly OP is daily driving Kali and hacked the central database to add the distro logos. I dunno, maybe I'm explaining it away too easily.

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    [–] devedeset@lemmy.zip 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

    I'm at the Kali Linux peak but at least I'm smart enough to know that I don't have the capability to do the social engineering aspect so I'm just gonna backtrack to Ubuntu and tie myself to the terminal and actually learn Linux.

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    [–] rockettaco37@lemmy.world -1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

    Anybody who calls Linux "GNU/Linux" is rightfully at the bottom of both axes

    [–] maxwells_daemon@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

    I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

    Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

    There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!

    Sadly I dont have this Copypasta where someone explains to an Arch purist why his Distros is just Linux.

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