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[–] Mangoholic@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 hours ago

Only with an icebreaker

[–] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 10 points 12 hours ago

You can plot a course in a straight line. Unfortunately, weather.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 103 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

in case there are others like me who have to see what it looks like on a Mercator projection map:

[–] x0x7@lemmy.world 15 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Wow. I can't believe my perspective of the world is that distorted. It makes me want to only look at it in 3D. If we've all mainly looked at Mercator projections our whole lives our sense of where everything is relative to everything else and what direction is completely off.

People complain about the proportional sizing of Mercator but the sense of direction it gives us is completely broken. I think the average person knows it's off and people think there is an error factor to consider that a really straight like might be a little squiggly. But nope. This made me realize the Mercator gives pretty much zero accurate sense of direction if real distance is involved.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Short distances are fine, and obviously directly east/west are fine. Directly north/south is also pretty alright, but, as you move further from the equator, any east or west movement is covering less distance, and vice versa.

[–] x0x7@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Right. That is the size issue. I'm saying there is a substantial direction issue as well.

[–] SupremeDonut@lemmy.ml 3 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

So would there be turning involved still orrrrr?

[–] atx_aquarian@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

You're constantly, gradually turning downward, technically.

[–] x0x7@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Actually not turning would be falling. You are constantly being turned upward.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago

no, that's a straight line

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 9 hours ago

No. Similarly, if you look at how planes fly, they fly in what looks like arcs, going north and then back south. On a mercator projection in looks longer, but it is the shortest straight (ignoring the curve of the earth) line.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great-circle_distance

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If it makes you feel better, the line is actually curved along the surface of the earth, you know, if you believe in a spherical earth.

[–] MintyFresh@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago

Nah. I've come to believe it's shaped like Dick Cheney's black, twisted heart.

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[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 11 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm no sailing historian, but that's probably how they actually discovered New Zealand.

"Heya mates, how'bout we be goin' straight ahead 'til back'ome we arrrggggh!!"

[–] Hoimo@ani.social 10 points 22 hours ago

The Polynesians took the long route.

The European explorers actually took a very similar route, so this seems to be an obvious option for sailors doing island hops in that area.

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can also build a nearly straight railway going from California through Canada and Alaska all the way to China.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bering_Strait_crossing

[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

That'd be awesome. That probably wouldn't work because it would take 100 years for California to build their first high speed rail

[–] Opisek@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

The USA-Russia border crossing might prove troublesome. Also, keeping railways running through the middle of Siberia in an operational state all year round would be challenging.

[–] Anivia@feddit.org 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Also, keeping railways running through the middle of Siberia in an operational state all year round would be challenging.

Definitely don't let Deutsche Bahn handle that part

[–] Opisek@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Die Verbindung fällt heute aus. Grund dafür ist 1mm Schneefall auf den Gleisen.

[–] death_to_carrots@feddit.org 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Ahh, die vier Feinde der Deutschen Bahn. Frühling, Sommer, Herbst und Winter.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 9 hours ago

I believe Vivaldi composed this one.

[–] cosmictrickster@lemmy.world 9 points 22 hours ago

One of the few world maps with New Zealand on it.

[–] Nanook@lemmy.zip 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Even better, imho, you can sail in a direct line from OG Zeeland (Netherlands) to New Zealand.

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Can you, though? You'd have to squeeze through the narrow English Channel first, and that would probably require some turns.

[–] Nanook@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 hours ago
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[–] rarsamx@lemmy.ca 83 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

The word "can" Is doing some heavy lifting here. I mean, there is a difference between theoretically possible and actually being done.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 hours ago

Yeah, it's going through the most dangerous water passage in the world IIRC, between South America and Antarctica. We do go through it fairly regularly at this point, but it's still not "safe."

[–] janus2@lemmy.zip 35 points 1 day ago (2 children)
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[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That southern ocean is brutal tho

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[–] sundray@lemmus.org 26 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I got this far on the Wikipedia and gave up:

On a curved surface, the concept of straight lines is replaced by a more general concept of geodesics, curves which are locally straight with respect to the surface. Geodesics on the sphere are great circles, circles whose center coincides with the center of the sphere.

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 hours ago

"Locally straight" is just a mathsy way of saying "it's straight if you zoom in a bunch".

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[–] vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 22 hours ago

Math nerds are going to have a field day with this statement haha.

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 52 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Don’t the circumpolar winds essentially prevent this, or at least make it really impractical?

[–] badcommandorfilename@lemmy.world 91 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Sorry, can't hear you down here in my submarine

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 51 points 1 day ago (2 children)

DON'T THE CURCUMPOLAR WINDS ESSENTIALLY PREVENT THIS, OR AT LEAST MAKE IT REALLY IMPRACTICAL?

[–] VeryVito@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 day ago
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