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[–] diptchip@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

I was once told that Tylenol wouldn’t pass today’s standards of the FDA. I believe it. Pretty sure that it’s the second leading cause of liver failure… Don’t both ibuprofen and naproxen last longer?

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 7 points 9 hours ago

Will he use fake studies hallucinated by chatGPT for this report, too?

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 18 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

What education, qualifications, experience and/or expertise does this clown have? As far as I know, the only thing he knows about "pharma" would have come from his heroin use.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

He said a bunch of shit that the country's most fearful and illiterate people loved to hear, he validated the fringe conspiracy theorists which breeds a kind of obsessive love that you can't buy with all the campaign money in the world, so Trump tapped him to keep pied-piper'ing the segments of rats who would vote for having a live porcupine stuffed down their pants if it meant validating the ONE topic that scares them the most. In this case, "mainstream science."

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, these are the sister-fuckers that BOOED their god-emperor Taco when he bragged about the vaccines (that he had next to nothing to do with - if anything we should be thanking Obama).

Because Taco is such a goddamned pussy, he backed off supporting the vaccines.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

Because Taco is such a goddamned pussy, he backed off supporting the vaccines.

Nah it's just he knows it doesn't matter now. Nobody in the base he's trying to hold onto looks into the past in any capacity. It's done and over. It's a new narrative now.

Trump and his "people" could start throwing babies in wood chippers on the white-house lawn today, and in 6 months they will say it never happened and their base will purge it from their memories like ballast and never revisit it. We are still underestimating how stupid a good 30% of the country is, and how moderately stupid the rest are.

The right is celebrating Trump and RFK Jr. right now. I wish we didn't have so much "satisfaction porn" being circulated on social media highlighting how stupid Trump and RFK are, and showed more how unopposed they are. I swear a good 90% of the left in this country still thinks we're scoring points and that any day now, it's going to reach a point where someone is going to "do something."

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 7 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Someone diagnosed him as being ASD at some point in his life and he's still mad about it because internalised ableism

[–] weremacaque@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

No one's that determined to bash autism unless they're hiding a tism or two

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 1 points 2 hours ago

If he just acknowledged his damned tisms he'd be able to get rid of the fucking rage trigger instead of taking it out on government policy in angry confusion

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Tylenol.

Acetominaphen.

... Arguably the most common component of general, over the counter pain relievers... on the planet.

I mean...

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2817406

Here ya go, here's a 2024 study debunking the thing that RFK is likely referencing.

EDIT: Further, folinic acid as a 'treatment' for autism.

So... yes, there are early preliminary studies indicating that this may be a way of alliviating some of the effecfs of non-syndromic ASD.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5794882/

Non-syndromic ASD is essentially nonverbal, nonresponsive ASD.

... There are many autistic people and kids who are not non-syndromic, an ASD diagnosis does not even require this kind of behavior.

Further, the proposed mechanism of action in using folinic acid to 'treat' autism is that it acts upon an abnormal level of folate blockers...

While it is true that ASD folks tend to have more of these folate blockers than non ASD folks...

Many of them do not.

Generally speaking, abnormal folate pathways... appear to be called Cerebral Folate Disorder (CFD) by this Dr. Frye who seems to be spearheading this line of research.

... I am also somewhat concerned that many of his studies are funded by Autism Speaks, an organization notorious for, amongst other things, not actually allowing autistic people to speak, generally viewing autism, as Dr. Frye put it, 'a devastating life long condition', akin to leukemia (cancer of the blood) which must be cured, thus propogating a stigma, stereotype and fear of autism, and of course, being a shitty non-profit that spends the vast majority of its funding on 'operational costs', as opposed to... you know, actually doing things that might be helpful to autistic people... and more or less advocating eugenics while saying they aren't but then immediately afterwaed advocating a different kind of eugenics.

https://www.themarysue.com/the-autism-speaks-controversy-explained/

Nevertheless:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40362912/

There are a number of small scale studies like this one, done by people not directly associated with Dr. Frye, that do seem to show improvements amongst non syndromic ASD individuals who also have this folate abnormality and/or the genetic mutations that are associated with it....

But I am so far unable to find any large scale studies.

Soooooo...

Yeah.

I am going with 'very preliminary positive results for a subset of autistic people' on this one.

Maybe, maybe, at best, Dr. Frye has discovered an actually physically distinguishable subtype or subcomponent of ASD, and a potentially effective treatment for that subcomponent.

Maybe.

Oooorrrrr...

Maybe there should be a study which takes into account how ASD kids respond to folinic acid, when you also devise a way to measure whether or not the parents treat those.studied autistic kids as hopeless defectives, vs actual tiny people whose brains just work a bit differently.

There is still a huge amount of research showing that the 'nurture' component of a person's upbrining greatly affects their liklihood of developing, and severity of ASD.

[–] monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world 20 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Assuming autism is “caused” by something and there is an “increase” of cases (not just diagnosis). Shouldn’t we start checking on Monsanto and the pesticides before anything else? Why are they obsessed with vaccines and medications?

[–] Montreal_Metro@lemmy.ca 13 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (4 children)

Is there really an increase in autism or increase in awareness of neurodivergent/autistic people? The increase in diagnosis doesn’t necessarily mean there’s an anctual increase of cases. You can’t measure anything if you don’t look for it in the first place.

[–] a_jeering_serpent@sopuli.xyz 9 points 13 hours ago

This is a really important point. Diagnoses go up with each revision of the DSM (at least in the US, as it's put out by the American Psychiatric Association) because the authors are intentionally making the criteria more expansive.

To be clear this is policy and guidance playing catch up with reality, and it still hasn't caught all the way up.

Be wary of anyone conflating increases in rates of diagnoses with rates of occurrence, anybody talking about changes in rates of autism diagnoses that fails to speak to this is either being disingenuous or are themselves the victims of others disingenuity.

It's like putting down mousetraps and then being surprised to find mice in them. The mousetraps don't increase the number of mice (ideally they decrease them!) but they can change your perception of how many mice there are by increasing opportunities for exposure.

[–] nulluser@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Is there really an increase in autism or increase in awareness of neurodivergent/autistic people?

That's exactly what the person you're replying to meant by...

“increase” of cases (not just diagnosis).

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[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

Not to mention if you read how people who lived before modern medicine were described, you can guess if they were autistic or add. Not to mention the ones who were very low functioning were a secret kept at home or institutionalized.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

The increase in diagnosis doesn’t necessarily mean there’s an anctual increase of cases.

Everyone knows this but they are letting them re-write reality anyway. They did this with Covid, an actual lethal virus that killed over a million Americans. We may never know the actual death-count because of conservative administration efforts to decrease diagnosis numbers. And they were OPEN about this, and we didn't march on DC then, so I don't expect it's going to get much better going forward.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 9 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I had to look twice to make sure it wasn't The Onion. I pray to the god that doesnt exist that the world somehow recovers from this and people look back at this chapter of human history as the time we finally learned not to let fucking idiots be in charge...

[–] Lyrl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Anti-intellectuallism is a repeating story in world history. Something about human genetics makes our communities susceptible to this. Khmer Rouge and China's Cultural Revolution are a couple of examples of these movements gaining control of a government. Witch hunts (any woman with knowledge perceived to threaten church teaching must burn) were a long standing practice often driven from non-governmental actors.

It always passes, but previous iterations have taken decades or hundreds of years.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 1 points 9 hours ago

Witch hunts were something extremely special.

Did you know that during the middle ages witchcraft was actually denied by the Roman Catholic Church? As in they denied witches existed despite biblical mentions. In some parts of Eastern Europe it was even a crime to accuse a woman of Witchcraft.

So what happened? In the same way that the internet made knowledge extremely easy to obtain, it also made misinformation able to spread like never before. The printing press did that. There was exactly one book on Witchcraft published towards the end of the Middle Ages that got widespread circulation due to the printing press. Then Witch burning and trials became common.

Its nuts to think that.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago

Yeah, the age of the Non-Expert and the stupid people that think that's a good thing.

Like the podcasters on Professional Left say, I want some of these assholes that vote for this shit ("because Taco is not a politician!") to have their fucking teeth drilled by "not a dentist".

FFS.

[–] Ashenlux@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 9 hours ago

Honestly, this is probably one of the better outcomes. Hopefully ibuprofen works well enough for pregnant people. He could have agreed with "vaccines cause autism" thing to fuel his attacks on vaccines. Or worse, he could have noticed that genetics play a big part and started a eugenics program.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 8 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

He will not make that link because it's not there and literally nobody can.

He may, however, lie and be wrong.

[–] SippyCup@feddit.nl 1 points 11 hours ago

No no he wants pregnant women to start taking ibuprofen.

Next up, the rise in prenatal mortality is linked to Democrats somehow

[–] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 16 points 18 hours ago

I link this worm infested brain dead twat to a very large piece of shit.

[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 36 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

How far are we along with "autism is a genetic defect and we are now euthanizing defective humans for the benefit of society" are we?

[–] DriftingLynx@lemmy.ca 29 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

His fixation on autism is super creepy.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 11 points 19 hours ago

Especially as a 'disease,' not a spectrum.

Not to belittle the effects on people of course.

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[–] Wazowski@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago

easy solution here is for all republicans to get themselves sterilized.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 11 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

Brace yourself, folinic acid and acedomediphine are about to be politicized. I'm reading up before the noise is too loud:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folinic_acid

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paracetamol

And the pages are locked, if not defaced, lol.

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago (5 children)

doesn't it take one pregnancy to prove this wrong? all you need is a mother of an autistic person who didn't use Tylenol while pregnant.

[–] volvoxvsmarla@sopuli.xyz 8 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Not really. A link doesn't mean a necessary causation. It doesn't have to be exclusively caused by tylenol. Skin cancer is linked to excessive sun exposure, but it can occur without it, and likewise, not everyone who is experiencing increased UV exposure gets skin cancer. Not every smoker gets lung cancer, not every lung cancer is caused by smoking (IIRC only 50% of lung cancer patients are smokers - it's just that not 50% of people are smokers). But a certain risk factor increases the occurence of a disease.

I guess what you are thinking of would be comparable with FASD, a mother who has a child with fetal alcohol syndrome but never drank any alcohol during pregnancy would disprove the causation. My guess would be that this isn't what they are going for but a vague "it increases the likelihood of the child developing autism".

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[–] ryper@lemmy.ca 2 points 12 hours ago

They might just tell her she did use Tylenol while pregnant, she just forgot/took it without knowing.

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[–] obvs@lemmy.world 13 points 20 hours ago

Okay, so does that mean vaccines for everyone?

I mean, I can get behind giving everyone this false belief if it means they'd go out and get their families vaccinated. I'm not above weaponizing their stupidity to save their lives.

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