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What do warmongers and strongmen chat about? Living forever, of course.

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago

I swear, this time we really have found the fountain of youth!

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago
  1. No.

  2. When it does the tech will be controlled by, horded by, and available only to the ultra-wealthy, which should come as a surprise to no one.

[–] Part4@infosec.pub 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Can't help but think that people who want to keep themselves alive forever have fundamentally missed the point.

[–] etherphon@midwest.social 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They absolutely have, they just want their name in a history book when life is so much fucking more.

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I would like to live forever. See how things turn out. I'm not going to be in any history book

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 3 points 3 days ago

Real talk. Just to observe what this all turns into. Do we nuke ourselves then I just float in space slowly going insane cause I can't die. Or do we get Star Trek gay space communism, then I can leverage my seemingly invinciblity to go on deep space exploration missions, coming across the guys that turned themselves into sentient balls of energy and convince them to turn me into one too, then experience their culture for a few lifetimes before eventually becoming Q and fucking with other passing physical beings.

[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Living forever is a pretty direct fuck you to the next generation of humans so I can't support it unfortunately.

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How is that a duck you to anyone?

[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Under the current system, which has a lot of built in false scarcity, it would mean a 20 year old would be fighting your 300 year old self for resources. In a world with more even distribution of resources maybe it could work temporarily but eventually humans would either need to stop reproducing or enough people would need to die of war or starvation to justify continued reproduction.

A system like this ultimately amounts to eugenics as only the "haves" will have access to immortality while the "have nots" perish naturally.

Desiring immortality is an inherently self centered mindset.

[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago

But that's a problem with the system, not with wanting to live as long as possible.

Fuck the system.

Burn it down, rebuild, and let's go full Star Trek.

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[–] meeeeetch@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

In Rome, during a triumph, the celebrated general would have a slave required to remind him that he would one day die.

These globe striding tyrants need this now, but one guy reminding them during their parties simply isn't enough. Every moment of their lives should feature that reminder. Like tinnitus but "Memento Mori" (or its equivalent in their native tongue).

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

They just need a bullet to the face. Simple.

[–] eronth@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Hey man, go for it.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago

Cheney is the primary test subject

[–] zarathustra0@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

How long before I can sell my organ futures?

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago

Dibs on the liver

[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Margin call!

[–] nico198X@piefed.europe.pub 4 points 3 days ago

can't wait until he goes to hell.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Nothing a few bullets can't fix.

[–] MilitantAtheist@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Makes sense why they're staying Ukrainian kids now

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 3 points 3 days ago

[off topic?]

https://bookshop.org/p/books/buying-time-joe-haldeman/PK3mbZuFGoSK5eAu?ean=9781504048583&next=t

Nice little SF adventure. In the future, you can buy immortality in decade segments. The Foundation that controls the lifesaving process demands the wealthy sign over all their assets [at least $100 million] for ten years of youthful vigor. A few finance geniuses have managed to stay alive for a century or more...

[–] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

[mortality] haunt[s] people—especially aging tyrants who fear that the icy hand of death is upon their shoulder and want far more time to ensure both national and personal glory.

Show me where Xi or Putin expressed fear of mortality. Better yet, show me where Xi or Putin expressed interest in extending their lifespan.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Ferrous@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Just read your article. Nowhere in it did Xi or Putin express fear of mortality or an interest in extending their personal lifespans.

All this is is musings on transhumanism.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 days ago

It's between the lines.

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