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Kowloon Walled City (lemmy.world)
submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by ReiRose@lemmy.world to c/til@lemmy.world
 

Edit to add wiki, sorry folks! working link

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[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 4 points 1 day ago

demolition began in March 1993 and was completed in April 1994.

:( fuck the State

[–] vatlark@lemmy.world 108 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 17 points 2 days ago

Wiki says it had 35,000 residents. Based on the size, it would be equivalent to 3 million people per square mile. Thats bonkers.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 15 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Part of it while filming a Jackie Chan movie.

Also a killer movie set in it came out last year. Featuring Samo kam-bo hung.

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[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Kowloon walled city was so incredible. I wish I could've seen it in person. Ive seen so many pictures and read so much about it. It was even used as a movie set after the tenants were relocated. It was so unique. Not that the concept is unique, slums exist all over the place. It was the confined area, the total lack of any administrative authority, and its incredible density that made it unique. Years ago there were a couple reddit posters who had either lived there or had gone there for school. Contrary to wider media narratives many of the people who were displaced from there actually regarded the city with a degree of fondness. The close proximity promoted a tight knit community.

Ultimately living there would have been likely pretty miserable, especially during the brutal Hong Kong summers. But something about the pictures of the dark alleyways with the distant sunlight barely peeking through the pipes and wires makes for such an interesting environs. It was famously served by only a single postman, and had few if any street addresses and a total lack of organizational structure. So he just sorta knew where everyone was, and how to get around its labyrinthine structure.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

after the tenants were relocated

That sounds incredibly violent

[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It largely wasn't. For all that I have special interest in the city, it was objectively quite bad for many reasons. Not the least of which was the abysmal state of the plumbing and electrical. The place had major sanitation issues. It was also at bad risk of fire and collapse. It had to be torn down.

I believe they offered most of the tenants money to relocate. Kowloon walled city had been built specifically because the space it occupied was in a Grey area with regards to jurisdiction and administration. It was nominally belonging to China, but existed surrounded on all sides by British Hong Kong. The British refused to do anything there besides basic water/electrical/mail. And China couldn't administrate there because they couldn't physically reach it. Once Hong Kong was returned to China, there would no longer have been a purpose to Kowloon Walled City. So it was going to be torn down eventually. I know some tenants refused to leave as long as possible, but once water and stuff was turned off they capitulated.

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 79 points 3 days ago (3 children)

How are you posting on TIL without at least giving us a Wikipedia article? For shame OP! Today only you, and nobody else learns!

Jokes aside, on the topic of this amazing walled city, apart from it being an admittedly filthy anarchic crime-ridden shithole, it genuinely is an intensely interesting place straight out of a cyberpunk setting, it genuinely was a wonder of the world

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 points 1 day ago

This. Not as a joke.

[–] ReiRose@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

I forgot! I had it copied and forgot to paste in the body. the shame

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

an intensely interesting place straight out of a cyberpunk setting

It is, in fact, the actual setting of Shadowrun: Hong Kong. So the SR writers at the very least must agree with you.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 2 points 1 day ago

From the 1950s to the 1970s, it was controlled by local triad gangs

That doesn't sound like anarchy.

[–] wakest@piefed.social 27 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Would love to see a 3d recreation of as much as possible. Would be cool to go thru all the videos and documentation of it and build a real 3d world from that

[–] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago

That's excellent! Thank you.

[–] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

William Gibson writes about this in his book idoru

[–] Imperial_Genesis@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Thanks! Always nice seeing Cyberpunk recommendations. Put it on my wishlist!

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[–] linkinkampf19@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Ask and you shall receive. Literally popped up last night for me. How convenient. Sure, it's Minecraft, but still pretty cool.

https://youtu.be/IWZQB9zDD3Y

[–] liaizon@social.wake.st 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Kowloon Walled City modeled in Minecraft!
https://youtu.be/IWZQB9zDD3Y

thanks to @linkinkampf19 for the link!

A screenshot of Kowloon Walled City modeled in Minecraft

[–] CaptainHowdy@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Lol I just saw that video yesterday and was going to show it here, but you beat me to it. Great video! I'd literally never heard of the place and now it's popped up twice in two days.

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[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There's been a version of it in second life for about 20 years I think.

[–] wakest@piefed.social 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Have a link to it? Or a screenshot?

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 5 points 2 days ago

None on hand at the moment. If you log in though, search on the world map for Kowloon. Google image and video search will also turn up results if you enter in secondlife and Kowloon.

The sim itself isn't trying to be absolutely authentic. Though the neon lit main street is fairly representative. And it does have an authentic display of what residential quarters would look like.

[–] GardenBeansAndSpam@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

the real folk blues!

sitting in muddy water
isn't so bad once in a while
if it ends after the first time

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

I was talking to a guy in Hong Kong about the housing there. It is obviously very expensive but they have public housing. The public housing has income limits and a very long waiting list. He said by the time you hit the end of the waiting list your income has usually crept up past the cutoff limit.

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago (3 children)

There's a weird, cool anime that takes place in a bizarre version of it called Kowloon Generic Romance.

[–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

Note that, as far as I can tell, the "Second Kowloon" depicted in the show is a much nicer place than the original Kowloon Walled City was.

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[–] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You should link Wikipedia or something

[–] ReiRose@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Yes I should have, edited to correct, sorry!

[–] scottmeme@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I really wish I had to opportunity to check that place out, never going to happen though 😞

[–] Jilanico@lemmy.world 32 points 3 days ago (4 children)
[–] Carighan@piefed.world 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

And this deep dive into its existence

[–] waterbird@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 3 days ago

this was really cool. thanks for sharing.

[–] scottmeme@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

Great video, just wish I would have been able to see it in person. But it was destroyed before I even existed...

[–] Eq0@literature.cafe 5 points 2 days ago

Wow! The level of ambient noise is insane!

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

~~Wiki link is malformed~~

Thanks!

[–] ReiRose@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Sorry! Fixed it now.

[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Haven't seen Twilight of the Warriors : Walled In yet but it's set in Kowloon City. Learnt about it on the Corridor show, fight scenes look dope

The trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnNhVxWzmhM

[–] any1th3r3@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I watched it recently and would highly recommend! Fight scenes are indeed super well done.

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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Just don't go in there looking for SCP-184. It'll drive you mad.

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago

A few documents indicated that SCP-184 could be brought into a home and allowed to affect the dwelling for 50 pounds sterling per half hour. These documents were unconfirmed by residents.

Not a bad deal

[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

And you'll probably fall into a pit made of jade horses

[–] baatliwala@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Black Ops level set in this was good

[–] linkinkampf19@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

There was also a pretty big chunk of Shenmue 2 that took place here. I remember getting lost a bit trying to find the classic arcade machines.

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