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Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!
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I've restored it. I don't think merely calling someone a "tankie supreme" is harassment. I suspect the mod in question saw a report without context and acted on it. Not quite sure how this fits the MOG concept, but you do you.
I suspect the mod in question saw a report without context and acted on it.
That's... supposed to be better? Removing a comment because it was reported without even fucking checking the comment? Though even that makes no fucking sense in context.
Not quite sure how this fits the MOG concept, but you do you.
"I'm not quite sure how censoring people for criticizing tankies fits the MOG concept"
Any other Uyghur genocide denialism you'd like to upvote while JAQing off?
Removing a comment because it was reported without even fucking checking the comment
The irony is that as far as I can tell, none of the actual trolling comments that I reported (I think there were two of them) were actioned.
There are plenty of comments calling me a nazi and spreading actually fake screenshots, and instead I got banned lol
You are the goat
Ooh, now you care about context lol
Because you are a tankie
DB0 is becoming a tankie instance.
It always was.
Maybe I've just been OOTL, but this whole thing has really saddened me. Because until now, I had really positive feelings towards DB0. I thought they were a good leftist instance with a focus on freedom and anti-authoritarianism. Their actions in the other thread (and, notably, where they have chosen to remain inactive), along with comments in this thread, have completely flipped that on its head. It's feeling no better than ML.
For the past year or so, I've noticed a significant number of db0 users and admins downvoting posts that are otherwise widely accepted as tankie. Often posts mentioning Davels, lemmy.ml admin and proud tankie, are downvoted by the db0 admins.
They also regularly target specific comments and threads that are linked from their snark community. Targeting comments and threads that are critical of tankies, while commenting and manipulating their own posts that like to give Tankies the benefit of doubt, or otherwise entirely supportive of such extremism.
I called them out on it, and they acted very predictably, doubling down on pro-authoritarian and tankie drivel.
The admins are very quiet when it comes to criticising tankies. They even have prominent tankies, such as Cowabees, Diva, and even Davel, actively engaging in their threads and Matrix channels. They like to call us a nazi bar because one single user said the word "degenerate", so using their own nonsense, that means they're a tankie bar, full and through.
DB0 honestly needs to be recognized as the instance that upgraded the tankie triad to a tankie tetrad.
Tetrad sounds cooler too.
a significant number of db0 users and admins downvoting posts that are otherwise widely accepted as tankie. Often posts mentioning Davels, lemmy.ml[1] admin and proud tankie, are downvoted by the db0 admins
This sounds like evidence against the claim, does it not? If they're downvoting tankie content, that makes them less likely to be tankies, no?
Downvoting this community. They're upvoting tankies on their own.
Oh I see. Downvoting times that tankies got called out.
Consistently. If there are downvotes, it almost always comes from db0
also @TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works, I plan on making a full rundown of the events, but unlike db0, I don't leave anything out.
On Lemmy "leftist" almost always boils down to tankie
They seem to regard solidarity with tankies as more important than solidarity with genocided groups, at the least.
Online edgelord behaviour.
Becoming?
There was a time when Holodomor and Uyghur denial was removed whenever a tankie posted it on Dbzer0.
Apparently that time is long past, and the admins now regard Holodomor and Uyghur genocide denial as perfectly kosher, and even support it.
I guess pro-genocide posters give more satisfying asspats than anti-genocide posters.
It is kind of weird to suddenly be a tankie. I wonder what happened.
Finally felt comfortable going mask-off, I suppose
lol what the fuck? @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com what the fuck gives? A known troll enters the conversation I was having with another user, spams irrelevant useless links in an attempt to refute my points, and I get penalised for calling them out?
What the fuck does "don't harass mods" even mean? I didn't "harass" anybody. I called out a number of bad-faith arguments made by a user who is not even a mod.
The ~~ml~~ db0 mod must have logged into the wrong account.
Wasn't me
from your snark community:
Why? The ban was reversed by a different person. Point remains
Oh, my bad. I see that you've reapproved the comment though. My sincere thanks.
@Unruffled@lemmy.dbzer0.com, I'd love to know what your thought process was at the time.
Alright shaggy!
On the floor?