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Fuck Rockstar. I changed my email accounts a few years ago but forgot to change Rockstar first. This wasn't a problem. Now, after buying GTA V on Xbox and Steam and sinking a lot of time into it over two accounts, they added some mandatory launcher on Steam that forces you to login to their Social Club. Mandatory launcher calls an account that I can't unlink, triggers mandatory 2FA to an email that doesn't exist. They refuse to help despite my willingly handing over a lot of private information - their support system is as good as fake. The end result is I have sank >£100 in buying their games and they ensure that not only do I not get to continue my account on GTA V, but I have been permanently locked out and actually impossible to play any Rockstar Social - walled game on Steam.


Partial 'correspondence' of my third attempt to get help from them. Twice they ignored the support subject.

Judging by other complaints online this exact issue has persisted and screwed over players since the creation of GTA V, so at least 12 years.

I have the same issue with Activision, and here's the kicker. They're exactly the same blueprint. Same support. Same result. Same fake-ass Western names on their signature.

I feel like Rockstar needs to be continuously pressured, injustices talked about, just in case they give.

Just don't give corps like Rockstar money.

Additional:
(from Schwaggaccino • 2y ago • Reddit)

I emailed Rockstar and started a request ticket and they want me to log in to get me to reset my 2FA which is preventing me from logging in.

THIS IS PEAK CLOWN WORLD I CAN'T BELIEVE SOMEONE ACTUALLY GOT PAID TO IMPLEMENT THIS JOKE OF A SYSTEM

Edit: For the time being it seems they have disabled all support as none of my support requests are going through, even with omitting data and using VPN multiple times.. I've had seven unsuccessful tickets and was just brainstorming how to automate the requests.

Final Edit: Thanks for your responses everyone, looks like legal is the only route. After 24h my support requests are still being auto blocked (not submitting as there's no delay before response), and I am skeptical they switched off support for that long, even if it is fake, so they just blacklisted my details I think.

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[–] veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago

God, can these companies fuck off with their third party launchers? Its why I don't buy any game off Steam which has that warning, not worth the hassle

[–] maxwells_daemon@lemmy.world 30 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Everyone in the comments making such a huge deal of account security when literally all Rockstar had to do was allow people to unlink their Steam accounts from Social Club. It could even be done in their own launcher, with the credentials of the Steam account that actually owns the game. Then people could just make a new Social Club account, it's not worth shit anyways.

They're locking people out of playing a local, offline game, over some decade old account that I used my spam email for, and now I'm supposed to remember it? Get a fucking grip bro.

[–] Pumasuedeblue@sh.itjust.works 21 points 6 days ago

Why don't you request a refund from Steam? If the game doesn't work because they changed it then I want my money back.

[–] WeebLife@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

Time to sail the high seas.

[–] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 days ago

Step one: put this on your tinder profile:

I have been permanently locked out and actually impossible to play any Rockstar Social - walled game on Steam.

Step two: reel'em in. You're free now!

[–] XenBad@feddit.uk 12 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I have the same issue and had the same result with Rockstar. Ubisoft managed to change my email though after providing proof of purchase. Fuck Rockstar, I’m sailing the seas with their games.

[–] SilverFlame@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Somehow I had 3 separate Ubisoft accounts with differing games on them. After a short back-and-forth proving I was the account(s) owner, they actually did what I asked. They combined all 3 accounts into one and combined my games catalog.

The corporation sucks ass, but their support did me a solid.

[–] innermachine@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

I had same issue trying to play that after a long time and after sending a screenshot of my steam acct logged in on a certain page they gave me a link to reset my info and I now have access again. What a pain in the ass it was though

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 11 points 6 days ago (2 children)

This isn't unique to Rockstar. If the email you created an account with is dead, you're screwed no matter who it is. I had this problem with Dropbox once. Luckily the email in question still existed, I just didn't know it. However since it was on a friend's server he was able to hook me back up.

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

I had the same issue with steam. They requested the same things. A ton of hoops to jump through but worth it because, you know, security.

[–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

While their process is often lengthy, EA reps will go really far to help you prove you own an account to recover it and change the login info, over the phone at least. I've had to work with them recovering accounts several times because I never learn from a mistake the first time.

[–] crx@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 days ago

Exact same for me but an Ubisoft game linking my Steam account to a long gone email address of a long gone Ubisoft account.

Absolutely hopeless customer support saying there is no possible way for them to help me.

Good thing I wasn't planning on buying any Ubisoft game ever again, problem pretty much sorted itself out.

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

One way to fix this is buy your own domain and own all the email accounts.

[–] millie@slrpnk.net 2 points 6 days ago

Have you tried using FiveM? Last I knew it didn't require social club access.

[–] TheV2@programming.dev 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

What exactly happened that leads to your conclusion that none of your support requests are going through? And why was it not possible to continue the on-going support request that you showed in your screenshot?

[–] bryndos@fedia.io 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Did you try typing goru@n.ga as your email address?

IRL you don't need an email account to do road violence. Simulator is worse than life. Matrix, confirmed.

[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] bryndos@fedia.io 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

IIRC goruanga was the cheat code in gta. also it came up when you got all the hare krishnas in one and go and gave 1million points.

[–] Wildmimic@piefed.social 1 points 5 days ago

that was gouranga

[–] Zer0_F0x@lemmy.world 135 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (12 children)

I used to work for a company that Epic Games outsourced their support to. We were based in Athens, Greece. There were other companies receiving the same email pool on Helpdesk Bulgaria or Romania, as well as an Indian office, all supporting US customers via email.

We were paid 3.5eu / hour and our performance was micromanaged by counting how many replies we did per hour.

Hence, we had canned responses that we'd copy/paste to save time and maybe achieve a bonus for that month.

Unfortunately we ended up being shit on on reddit on multiple occasions because some poor guy misunderstood the request and a legitimate request would be promptly denied, even though it shouldn't be. The level of English comprehension varied wildly among us.

All I'm saying is maybe Rockstar actually has a way to ID your account based on IP addresses, credit card used, date purchased if you have the receipt email, driver's license etc and you're just dealing with an underpaid dude in Eastern Europe not quite understanding you.

Usually if you threaten to sue they escalate to tier 2, so you may have more luck that way and tbh I don't know about Rockstar, that's how Epic did it back in 2018.

Maybe try explaining it a different way? I dunno but good luck.

Edit: I just saw the rest of the messages in your comment.

I wouldn't have given you back the account either in their shoes. You just claim things that anyone could claim from their point of view, they have procedures they need to follow.

They can't try your password, or see it anywhere and would never ask you for it either.

They're asking simple things that you should have been able to verify. After that they'd likely ask for IP addresses and last 4 digits of card used etc.

They have to do this, or anyone's account could be hacked by social engineering all too easy.

[–] Flagstaff@programming.dev 38 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Thanks for the context, which led me to downvote this post. Come on, guys; not all complaints are valid.

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[–] ech@lemmy.ca 90 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

~~Lol, YDI. When asked to provide the identifiable information, you just say "Stop and do the thing I want." You seriously expect them to just hand over an account to someone who can't provide basic information about it? You owned yourself, pal.~~

I misread the order of the interaction, which painted a much more antagonistic view of OP. Sorry about that. That said, the actual interaction plus their further reaction here is still not good. "Brainstorming how to automate the requests" is not an appropriate response to any of this.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Look at the timestamps, the conversation is from top to bottom. So technically I guess he tried to answer, but he probably missed the answer and instead had a tone that happened to match exactly how a scammy email would sound.

If legitimate, it's probably better that they didn't get to successfully automating spamming the support system. Nothing screams legitimate requests like bot spamming... Don't know the tone of his follow ups, but best to take a breath and reset their tone and try again, asking what other details aside from nickname can be used, given their steam access.

[–] ech@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 days ago

Ah, yeah, I totally misread those screenshots. My mistake. Still not good, though. I take back that YDI, but yeah, not surprised they're getting ghosted after all that.

[–] Odo@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

I think you meant "bottom to top". But yes, that does change the tone a bit.

[–] maxwells_daemon@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Social Club is the kind of account you use a throwaway email for, and just use whatever random nickname isn't taken yet. I, personally, have no idea what the email or nickname to my Social Club account are. I also have bought GTA V through Steam back in 2015 and haven't lived into Social Club since. I think it's perfectly fair to expect that your Steam account shouldn't be hijacked by Rockstar upon linking it to one Social Club account once.

At the very least, if they're gonna have a Rockstar launcher, it should allow you to unlink your Steam account through it, using your Steam credentials, and free it up to link to a new Social Club account.

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Looking at the conversation, you do sound like a hackerkid™ trying to social engineer itself into someones rockstar account

You should give them the info they ask for
Also, the poor indian dude answering you probably doesn't have access to you crew's name in gtav or anything like that.

[–] Wildmimic@piefed.social 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Don't give them money because you aren't able to keep your email address updated? Don't give them money because you are not able to provide the information they need to verify you are who you say you are?

I've worked costumer support for many years, and me and my supervisors would have rejected your request too. Since you can't provide what they want (not even a definite nickname wtf), you probably can't prove the purchase either.

Don't flame some poor support guy or a company, kick yourself in the ass for letting it slide for so long that you cant even remember the original nickname anymore and chalk it up as a learning experience - we've all been there.

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[–] artyom@piefed.social 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Yeah this is the cancer that is email 2FA.

Unfortunately email is the only way they have to verify your identity. No email, no account. But this is very much not exclusive to Rockstar.

I changed my email a couple of years ago and it's absolutely astonishing how many companies are completely unequipped to deal with someone changing or deleting their email account.

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[–] trk@aussie.zone 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I dunno man, I'd kind of rather you lose your account rather than Rockstar happily handing over my account to anyone who contacts support and claims they're me but can't access my email account.

[–] Limonene@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You're misunderstanding. They bought these games through Steam. Their proof of ownership of the account is that they have the Steam account. There's no legitimate reason to lock the authorized Steam user out of the account.

[–] Wildmimic@piefed.social 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

But Rockstar cannot be sure that the Steam account hasnt been taken over, so access to the Steam account years after the purchase is not proof of ownership to them.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's not their job to police the ownership of the steam account.

The steam account owns the game, whoever controls the steam account owns the rockstar game.

[–] Wildmimic@piefed.social 0 points 5 days ago

The license is bound to Rockstar social accounts, which are bound to an email address. That is pretty visible when you create your account for the game if i think back to my installation. Control of the Steam account is circumstancial evidence, ownership of the email address is proof of ownership.

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

A lot of private information

Public nicknames, passwords and emails that could be fished from public dumps and retried, public crew names.... Where's the private and where is the a lot?

Also you're not even paying attention. You called someone Aaron well after they've left the conversation.

Yeah I wouldn't have let you in either with that hostility and level of vaguery

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