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Intel admits its high-end desktop PC chips 'fumbled the football,' disusses 18A yield challenges and performance, Panther Lake ramp (www.tomshardware.com)
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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

One of the things I absolutely hated about Pat Gelsinger was his constant lies.

We (Intel) will win Apple back.

No chance in hell they could do that, when Apple had a chip they had full control over that was superior.

We (Intel) now have AMD in the rear mirror, and they will stay there.

They absolutely didn't, except on very specific use cases, and by using twice the power.
Using twice the power is never a good position for leadership, and of course Intel never really achieved it from that point.

we don't perform as well, and it's mostly because of this high-end desktop business that we didn't have a good offering this year,

Well no shit Sherlock, but at least they are more honest about the situation now.

[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Never knew that Gelsinger claimed that they would win Apple back. I am surprised that he would say that, I don't see the benefit.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/intel-ceo-my-job-is-to-win-apple-back-205012699.html

Intel CEO: My job is to win Apple back

He was all about hype IMO, IDK maybe he thought Intel's problem was a worker mentality problem?
I also just hate these over enthusiastic bosses, that desperately try to make it look like their exaggerated wages are worth it.

But the idea of Winning Apple back was so stupid. Intel lost Apple because Intel is a poor team player, and wouldn't make the CPU Apple needed.
Exactly the same reason they left the PPC cooperation with IBM.
Even iPhone could have been based on Intel, if Intel hadn't rejected the idea completely. And Intel could likely have avoided the Arm revolution altogether!
IMO it's a good thing Intel screwed up on the iPhone though. Arm has been doing a hell of a job on mobile.

[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I think if somehow Intel was able to dominate mobile, I feel like they would have a lockhold on the industry.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Maybe you are right, without mobile and Arm, TSMC would not have had nearly the same resources to beat Intel.
And Intel might have recovered way faster after the 10nm fiasco.

It's hard to say, because Intel failed in large degree because of arrogance, and that would definitely not have been less if they had captured mobile too.