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[–] flemtone@lemmy.world 43 points 2 days ago (41 children)

Already using GrapheneOs on my phone, so fuck Google.

[–] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

But, what happens when Google decides to no longer the option to unlock the bootloader for future phones? It's the future that is the concern when it comes to the degoogle options available.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Then the community shifts to a different model, or puts more resources behind mobile Linux projects, and all that would need to happen is something like what Valve did for Linux for the Steam Deck.

I'm ready to switch to a Linux phone as soon as I can find one where the basic phone features work properly (MMS, wake from sleep, camera, etc). The more people like me can switch, the closer we'll be to mainstream adoption. That's the same process as Linux has been going through: I switched before Steam on Linux was a thing, then Steam came and more switched, then Proton made windows games work and more switched, etc, and now we're seeing the start of "normal" people switching.

I hope that happens before my Pixel 8 goes out of support or breaks.

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[–] SonOfAntenora@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm not giving up my off the market pixel dungeon mods.

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[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago (4 children)

okay well goodbye Google, then

what's the alternative here?

[–] y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago

Yeah that's the issue, when it comes to mobile, anyway

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 123 points 2 days ago (21 children)

Its about time an open standard happened for mobile OSes.

[–] candyman337@lemmy.world 93 points 2 days ago (9 children)

That's what Android was and they keep trying to undo that any way they can

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[–] Mika@sopuli.xyz 72 points 2 days ago (4 children)

When reading cyberpunk lore, quickhacks didn't make any sense to me. Some programs that break cyberware because of backdoors, but why would people install cyberware with backdoors?

Now I look at the sad state of mobile market and, yeah ok, that makes sense.

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[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And they can suckle upon my peener.

I'll go to Graphine or something else before I let the company for whom "don't be evil" was too bold a statement dictate my fuckin' choices.

I already ditched Windows. Can't be that hard to cut Google out too.

[–] traceur301@lemmy.blahaj.zone 41 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Graphene has locked itself to google hardware, and google can cripple them at any point by stopping bootloader unlocks. We need to go deeper, or aim higher as it were

[–] DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 12 points 2 days ago

They have stated that they're more than willing to work with any manufacturer who is prepared to make a device that meets their security standards. But as it stands, Pixels are the only unlockable devices that meet that standard.

Someone like Fairphone could do pretty well from a tie-in with Graphene. But it's up to them.

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[–] zarathustra0@lemmy.world 77 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (12 children)

I don't know about anyone else, but I got into computers at a young age because it gave me a sense of control over something. I didn't understand everything, but I could do a lot of trial and error, read things and experiment, build cool things, and I shared a sense of community with some random internet strangers based on that knowledge.

In a world where we are so powerless in so many other ways, why did we insist on bringing that power dynamic into the new bright tech sphere? Why did we have to do that? (N.B. this is rhetorical questioning).

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