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[–] bluesheep@sh.itjust.works 62 points 6 days ago (1 children)

AOSP

Android Open Source Project

look inside

not open source

mfw

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

You can still use AOSP to make your own phone, but you'll just have to built your own apps too, since eventually, all of google play apps aren't gonna work on degoogled Android.

[–] EnsignWashout@startrek.website 17 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

you'll just have to built your own apps too

We are well on our way.

I was confused before I made the switch. So many of the most useful kinds of apps weren't maintained anymore by anyone on the Google Play store. I had this surreal feeling that the app ecosystem was getting worse every year.

And then I installed F-Droid and figured out where all of my favorite app developers went. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 59 points 6 days ago (5 children)

they court the nerds with cool tech, then ditch them whenever their shit takes off and the nerds are an irrelevant minority.

[–] nomadjoanne@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago

Tale as old as time.

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 59 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

iOS jailbreaking used to be incredible too.

I guess it might still be for those who slipped into the “window” to do it, but I have no clue what Cydia looks like these days.

[–] LucidNightmare@lemmy.dbzer0.com 50 points 6 days ago (15 children)

Cydia is practically dead, replaced by Sileo or Zebra, and most tweaks are paid now.

I miss when people did stuff for a hobby or for fun. Literally everything wants your money these days it seems.

[–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 35 points 6 days ago (2 children)

It's not like everything (or rather every dev) necessarily wants your money. We're forced to monetize even our hobbies in an attempt to live a worthwhile life. It's a cancerous system infecting everything and everyone.

To develop great FOSS software without the need of monetization is an enormous privilege.

[–] LucidNightmare@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 6 days ago

No, you’re absolutely right.

I am more angry at the system than at the hobbyists. I apologize for coming off like that.

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[–] unknown1234_5@kbin.earth 64 points 6 days ago (10 children)

i cant wait for mobile Linux to be ready, I will switch in a heartbeat.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 17 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Pinephone exists now, you can buy it today. It runs Linux.

Calls/SMS do work although are not 100% so if you absolutely need these to be reliable you could get a brick phone for like £15 to cover that and then use the Pinephone as a pocket computer. I used it as my only phone for a couple of years and it was mostly fine, now it doesn't have a SIM in it and its perfect as a pocket PC.

[–] Archer@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago (3 children)

If calls/SMS are not 100% then it’s not a phone

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[–] Samsy@lemmy.ml 18 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Follow pine64 news, they stopped producing new pinephones since they arent in demand enough

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[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Pinephone battery usage (with postmarketOS) is atrocious. I bought one and it's been collecting dust in a drawer ever since the first 3-4 times the battery drained from 100 to 0 within 24 hours on stand-by. :( My fastest wasted 700ish EUR ever.

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[–] whimsy@lemmy.zip 40 points 6 days ago (2 children)

It's happening, I'm finally getting nostalgic from tech memes. The days on xda forums and IRC. Thankfully IRC is still alive. Xda seems to be dying to telegram and Google's enshittification

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[–] TeamTeddy@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

There's so much bullshit with smartphones now that make them a pain to use, I'm honestly considering at this point to just get a flipphone and buy separate devices for the things it can do. Get a camera, MP3 player, and portable DVD player and live life the way people did 20 years ago.

[–] edgyspazkid@lemmy.wtf 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

Oh, I totally agree, dude! I was thinking the same idea for a while too

  • Camera problem – You have the best camera on your device, but sometimes people don't even set the best settings lol. Plus, you've taken tons of photos with your phone camera that you never look at, so what's the point? A small camera is a great idea or polaroid.

  • Mp3 - I don't have use Spotify or some streaming music platfrom. Because I listen to specific random songs that's not alwasys available on Spotify etc. So I just download my songs with yt-dlp on mp3 files!

  • Portable DVD player - I personally just download my videos (youtubers or movies) and then watch on my phone.

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[–] Samsy@lemmy.ml 40 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I remember this "don't be evil" slogan. But what was it from?

[–] zakobjoa@lemmy.world 44 points 6 days ago (2 children)
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[–] HarryOru@lemmy.zip 23 points 6 days ago (4 children)

As gross as Google's endless enshittification is, I blame the consumers for most of it. People vote with their wallets and they've been voting for the locked up walled garden crap option for the past two decades, especially in the US, where there is literally a culture of "ew, you have a green message bubble!" and chasing a status symbol is way more important than things like actual ownership over your devices, digital freedom and customization. And funnily enough, Google's hardware sales have started increasing steadily since they've started copying Apple's shitty model.

[–] Pazuzu@midwest.social 49 points 6 days ago (7 children)

Ah yes, the consumers having no real practical alternative between apple and android means they support all the bullshit Google is forcing onto android ^/s^

How do you propose I vote with my wallet when using something like grapheneOS requires buying a pixel?

[–] monogram@feddit.nl 16 points 6 days ago (5 children)

GraphineOS is the epitome of paying against your values then using foss without giving back.

Murena sells phones with e/os already installed, and there seems to be others too where you can buy a phone: iodé , jolla, pine64, pureos,

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[–] DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 8 points 6 days ago

Even with Graphene, it's increasingly likely that it'll be dead to new Pixels in the coming years. And I say that as someone posting this from a Pixel 9 running Graphene.

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[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 14 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Ah yes, I too blame the overworked and underpaid population that were never given a real education besides a dysfunctional and authoritarian public school system which contains at least 50% pro-status-quo propaganda and omit real useful information, and teaches kids to obey teachers and the school admin, and subjugate their free will. /s

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[–] edgyspazkid@lemmy.wtf 19 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

off topic me using android 2015

I remember when I was younger is rooted phone and installed freedom apk. This app was awesome and allowed you to buy stuff from Google Play for free. Does anyone remember this app? I always thought that logo was really weird.

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[–] jenny_ball@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

holy crap this is so true. i miss twrp

[–] SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago

This is cruel, now I feel like some kind of criminal. Who knew that the most dangerous criminal is an ordinary consumer who wants freedom...

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 days ago

Holy crap that dude aged like milk in 3 years time

[–] tomenzgg@midwest.social 20 points 6 days ago (5 children)

I'm probably going to spam this around a bit, since most people don't seem to know about it, but a reminder that FuriLabs has a (GNU+)Linux phone with decent spec.s and the ability to run Android app.s (from what I've heard) pretty decently: https://furilabs.com/

Biggest drawback is it's based on Halium. Usual growing pains of a new product/company apply but apparently the company is pretty responsive and their dev.s have worked with customers to get things like calling working with the carrier and bands of their country where it hasn't worked before so improvements move pretty quickly.

Collection of different experiences I've variously seen online over the last year or so:

I don't own one, myself, so I can't give any personal experience but I've seen it around for a few years now but most people don't seem to even know about it. Maybe there's a reason for that? But none I've ever seen anyone say.

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[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 days ago (5 children)

I'm gonna carry around my steam deck and add a USB camera module, a GPS module, and add some meshtastic radios modules, and I'm gonna daily drive it as the ultimate all-in-one device, and Mr. Google Pichai can't stop me! xD

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There are phosh based phones and over time more people will hopefully switch to them, use them, and work on making them better. Phosh-based phones are currently are not as usable as something like GOS, but with Google challenging itself to become more and more enshitified in the interest in marginal tiny profit gains (even if it destroys their brand over the long term) nerds needs to band together prepare for an alternative. Part of this is going to be advocating for Apps that work in Linux mobile Phosh environments and just refusing to use containerized apks and part of it is going to be people doing what they can to support native linux phone apps that work well in Phosh.

[–] alecsargent@lemmy.zip 12 points 6 days ago

Its all fun and games when your bork a custom rom, force flash a stock rom and delete your EFS directory (the one with the IMEI)

Ah good times, now that phone is just my OBS controller.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (5 children)

For those wondering what happened, the Android Open Source Project (ASOP) launched in 2007, but started decoupling major parts of the project from the main in 2012 instead forcing them to update through Google Play store and over time restricting access to the codebase before just this year deciding to shut down the ASOP.

In their defence, they've also made lots of changes to make android compatible with more devices and to make third party stores work better, but they've just as often made changes that intentionally harmed development of alternative android-based OS.

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[–] polle@feddit.org 10 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Iam still sad not having titanium backup with root on my current phone :(

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