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Will they lobby for laws that prohibit Linux or make it difficult to install? What actions might they take in the future?

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[–] TDCN@feddit.dk 2 points 6 days ago
[–] codenul@lemmy.ml -3 points 6 days ago (7 children)

Some people including me maybe dont want Linux to become popular.

Can we please have something in this world that isnt ruined by the general population? They already ruined the internet -

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago

Scientists really would prefer Linux to stay in the nerd realm.

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[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 64 points 1 week ago (12 children)

I believe they just don't care, since not only is Windows not very profitable anymore, the real money is at businesses. So as long as they sell licenses to businesses (business laptops, etc), but also GitHub Enterprise (yes, Micro$oft also owns GitHub) Microsoft earns enough money that way. And also think cloud (Azure)..

My guess is therefor that the focus on Windows isn't that big anymore. I just hope more companies and gaming devs/publishes also push native binaries towards Linux.

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[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 51 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Embrace, extend, extinguish.

SQL Server runs on Linux. Azure supports Linux. The next step is to extend into their own distro, get everyone using it, then drop support for mainstream Linux.

Will it work? Maybe. They'll have to make Microsoft Linux more attractive than Debian and Red Hat.

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[–] audaxdreik@pawb.social 26 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Some others have already said the "embrace, extend, extinguish" but here's my take on it. Pair it with Secure Boot and TPM 2.0

  • Embrace: Secure Boot can already work with Linux, how lucky! This gives them not exactly control, but authoritative denial over your boot process and hardware.
  • Extend: This is the part that remains to be seen. If they feel threatened enough by the shift in the gaming landscape, mind you not over losing out on sales or the hearts of gamers or anything, but again control, they may begin to make Linux offerings. A concession to allow an honest to god, thick Office client on Linux would certainly appeal to some. Adobe gets in on that action to back them up with Photoshop and Activision with Call of Duty, etc.
  • Extinguish: TPM 2.0. One of the less talked about features of this is remote attestation ("Remote attestation allows changes to the user's computer to be detected by authorized parties. For example, software companies can identify unauthorized changes to software, including users modifying their software to circumvent commercial digital rights restrictions." - DRM). We're already seeing this with CoD on Windows. They'll allow you to run much requested Windows software on Linux, even provide direct support possibly, but at the cost of not precisely control but authoritative denial. Which still works out to be control in most ways since if you want to use the software and they are to remotely attest, they can also insist that part of that attestation is you running some sort of telemetry or not running software they disagree with.

The reason I think this route is highly likely is because it plays well with uninformed consumers. To the untrained eye it looks like they're giving ground and actually allowing for broader support of their software while effectively gaining control over the environment once again and removing the biggest benefits of running FOSS on your system.

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[–] Kirk@startrek.website 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Windows is only 12% of Microsoft's revenue, and between Mac, Linux and ChromeOS, it really doesn't have a monopoly anymore on desktop (about 70%). On top of that, desktop usage in general is decreasing, and is already less than 50% of all web traffic.

What I'm saying is that I think it's safe to say something else will likely "kill" Windows long before Linux ever becomes a serious threat to it.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Windows is only 12% of Microsoft’s revenue

That may be true, but a lot of their profits build on that Windows monopoly. I wouldn't be surprised if about 80% of their profits depend on Windows.

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Do you have a source for that? This chart says otherwise:

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[–] ugo@feddit.it 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (10 children)

My expectation: nothing. At least, nothing on the OS side. I don’t think windows is very important to microsoft strategically.

Nowadays, the way to capture audiences is not so much via a proprietary OS, but via proprietary apps.

And in that sense, microsoft is proceeding exactly as expected: more and more of the windows ecosystem either exists on the web, or is available on linux and macos too.

I can see a future where windows only exists for backwards compatibility, but otherwise:

  • dotnet apps run on linux (via dotnet core)
  • edge runs on linux
  • powershell runs on linux
  • visual studio code runs on linux
  • most of the rest of microsoft’s suite runs in the web

So what does microsoft need to do once windows collapses in the desktop space? Imo not much, really. Those people and companies that are tied to microsoft products will still be. Only, they might be running them on linux.

Edit to add: I am gonna place a bet that we’re gonna see an official microsoft linux distribution by the end of 2035

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[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 15 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Well there is the 9/11 change that may be happening soon: https://techrights.org/n/2025/08/26/The_UEFI_9_11_Part_I_Introduction_to_Impending_Catastrophe_Micr.shtml

Its possible a LOT of linux machines wont work after this date.

[–] Valso@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 days ago

Fortunately I'm safe from that bc right after I assembled my current PC (even before moving the distro to it; yes, moving, not "installing"), I entered BIOS and disabled secure boot, IPM 2.0 and pretty much everything Spyware related. Only then I booted Clonezilla and extracted from the backup image. Since I had done the same on the old PC in BIOS, that means my Arch was never installed with SB and IPM active.

On top of that the last update of BIOS nearly broke it, so I flashed it back to the more stable version the motherboard came with. And since I have no intention to update BIOS, I'm safe from all that trouble.

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