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[–] Iambus@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

This is dystopian.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 36 points 6 days ago (7 children)

Did some research and here are your options:

  • use custom mod (the new restriction only applies to certified devices). You can use microG (/e/, iode, Lineage) or sandboxing (GrapheneOS) to run apps requiring Google services. Google will still try to kill it but my bet is it will still work for at least a couple of years
  • Ubuntu Touch - you can buy new devices with it, it can run android apps using waydroid but you will not be able to run any apps requiring google services. It can run native Linux apps. Native UT apps are build using QML. It has a completely new system API so it's closer to Android then native Linux. It's based on Halium which uses the kernel from Android
  • PostmarketOS - native Linux running native Linux apps. Can use waydroid. Few supported devices but everything works on PinePhone Pro and few others phones.
  • Droidian or similiar - Debian running on Halium. Kind of half way between PostmarketOS and Ubunut Touch. Native Linux but running on Android based kernel

Personally, I will stick with GrapheneOS for now (my Pixel still has at least 6 years of support). When I'm unable to run all the apps I need on it I will switch to two phones setup: stock Android for work/car apps, some Linux phone for everything else. When my Pixel dies I will switch to iPhone.

[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 29 points 6 days ago (13 children)

Google has already started killing GrapheneOS by removing device trees from AOSP releases. Android 16 works fine, but for how long?

I would imagine the first thing any custom ROM would do is bypass Google's app restrictions.

I wouldn't be surprised if in 3 years I would need to pass hardware attestation to install a calculator app from the Play store.

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[–] dual_pyramid_reality@lemmings.world 22 points 5 days ago (9 children)

Where are all the open source phone OSes? Where are the OS agnostic capable hardware phones? Technically some do exist, but I don't think they have any significant market share. Hope I'm wrong though.

[–] sommerset@thelemmy.club 16 points 5 days ago

Google slowly suffocated all the 3rd party rom vendors.

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[–] JesusTheCarpenter@feddit.uk 6 points 4 days ago

This will be the last straw for me. I will be looking for Android OS alternatives.

[–] RacerX@lemmy.zip 26 points 6 days ago (5 children)

I kinda miss my BlackBerry.

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Modern business strategy be like "If you're not building an illegal monopoly, consider doing so for more money"

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 11 points 5 days ago (7 children)

The phone I have now is half way paid off... I will say it. It is a Samsung S23. I didn't want it. It is just my other phone literally died from a single drop of water! I won't get into the details. But I want grapheneOS or the most private OS I can.

Right now I have been carrying my phone less than before. I used to take it even to grocery store trips, but I am just getting sick of the endless monitoring, even if I am a terminally online person. I literally cannot leave my apartment without being on camera since my landlord has all the corridors and exits/entrances on 24/7 surveillance.

I know that a phone can be tracked even when on a private OS. And the EU's rules on wanting a copy of every single message sent out from all messaging apps (including signal) will still affect non-EU people, too. It fucking sucks.

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[–] N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 35 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Sure glad I de-googled with GrapheneOS that ironically runs on Pixel phones.

[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 24 points 6 days ago (16 children)

I've been hemming and hawing. Switched to Linux pretty much full time for my PC, this will push me 100% into FOSS phone. Over half my apps I use would get blocked

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[–] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 9 points 5 days ago

Wtf is this

[–] RiQuY@lemmy.zip 29 points 6 days ago (7 children)

Is that even legal? Monopolistic behaviour.

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[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (9 children)

I am toying with the idea of creating a PDA of sort from a raspberry pie, touchscreen and a powerbank. Case can be 3d printed, it would be bulky af and equipped with Tails or some other secure OS.

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[–] kepix@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (3 children)

so no modded apps, no emulation, no unauthorised chat apps. hopefully some root mod will make this irrelevant.

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[–] winni@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)
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[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Ok this needs harsh pushback, because phones are affordable, computers are not. There needs to be a massive project dealing with making phones platform agnostic.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 16 points 5 days ago (7 children)

Have you shopped for those items recently? You have 200 buck computers and 2000 buck phones.

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