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[–] m33@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 days ago

Sadly, as always, Lisp is put in parenthesis and doesn't show here

[–] DJKJuicy@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 days ago
[–] VitabytesDev@feddit.nl 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This is a very bad chart:

  • I don't understand what Toy Lang, Nu Lang or even System Lang mean
  • How are C and Assembly obsolete?
  • How is C++ more obsolete than D or Go?
  • PHP still powers a large portion of the internet, certainly not a "Toy Lang"
  • Why is ECMAScript here and not JavaScript?

Downvoting.

[–] mkwt@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This chart is easier to understand if you make the following substitutions:

  • Toy Lang --> high level language (except brainfuck really is a low level toy language)
  • System Lang --> low level language
  • Obsolete Lang --> old programming language, regardless of obsolescence status
  • Nu Lang --> newer programming language

After understanding this construction, I fail to find any humor in this.

Why is ECMAScript here and not JavaScript?

Among other things, "JavaScript" is a trademark of Oracle.

[–] VitabytesDev@feddit.nl 1 points 5 days ago

I fail to find any humour in this. I think the humour are the labels (Toy, System, Nu, Obsolete), which are however incorrect and misleading.

Among other things, "JavaScript" is a trademark of Oracle.

Does this prevent it from being used in memes?

[–] littlebigendian@lemmy.zip 5 points 6 days ago

The hardest hitting rage bait I've seen all year

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 6 days ago

Yes, SQL is but a toy language. It probably will never make it into production.

[–] Rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago

What is Fortran's actual address on this visualization?

Asking for a friend.

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

how is python to the right and mojo at the bottom.

[–] Scoopta@programming.dev 112 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Assembly being obsolete has to be the funniest joke in here. It fundamentally never will be even if its use is niche

[–] el_twitto@lemmy.world 51 points 1 week ago (1 children)

...and C++ being obsolete is the second funniest.

[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It is clearly surpassed by C though this chart seems to have missed that fact.

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[–] ozymandias117@lemmy.world 86 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How are you defining "Obsolete" vs "Nu"?

e.g. Brainfuck from 1993 is all the way to Nu, while D (2001) and Rust (2012) are less "Nu"?

[–] lena@gregtech.eu 37 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Also, what the hell is "nu" supposed to mean?

[–] Mika@sopuli.xyz 23 points 1 week ago
[–] subterfuge@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

OP probably lived through the mid-1990s rise of “nu-metal” bands like Linkin Park

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[–] KazuchijouNo@lemy.lol 63 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

AKA: How to annoy a bunch of computer nerds very quickly....

Make one for Linux distros next!!!

[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

By being wildly wrong you mean?

[–] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You say "wildly wrong", they say "incentivizing engagement".

[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] moomoomoo309@programming.dev 47 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, the axes on this are weird, why would the opposite of a systems language be a toy language? And why is Lua, a very popular and commonly used language in tons of stuff, a "toy"? And Lua is a nu Lang? It's older than Java, maybe it just feels newer because each release isn't necessarily backwards compatible?

[–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Also Python as a toy lang and somehow more "nu" than Java despite Java being younger?

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[–] rooroo@feddit.org 41 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It wouldn’t be a good compass if nobody had strong issues with it:

  1. System vs Toy is not opposed to each other. Should have been system vs abstract or useful vs toy or whatever
  2. Where LISP? Best language missing makes graph bad

Edit: before people tell me there’s already ‘obsolete’ on the graph, no, there’s loads of obsolete languages that are still useful, and many more new languages that are either built for fun or not used for sad or good reasons.

Edit2: I’m also halfway sure that brainfuck is older than rust (but don’t wanna look it up). But if that’s true your axis mean several things at once anyway and you should feel bad (not really though).

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I literally opened it looking for Lisp and dismissed the whole thing when I realized its not there

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[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 39 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If everything written in those "obsolete" languages suddenly disappeared, the whole world would go dark.

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[–] svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

SQL isn't a toy language, it's a domain specific language.

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (10 children)

How is C or assembly obsolete when they are literally everywhere is beyond me

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[–] Aquaphobi@lemmy.zip 29 points 1 week ago (4 children)

And I bet this is based in opinion and not any sort of scientific understanding because you put assembly as an obsolete language…

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[–] radish@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Curious how you decided what goes where, I'd hardly consider SQL a "Toy Lang" as opposed to a "System Lang"

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[–] Eiri@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Did you just note Typescript, a superset of JavaScript that needs to be compiled into it, as closer to the system?

Also does it technically constitute a language? That feels like a stretch too.

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[–] ulterno@programming.dev 22 points 1 week ago

The only way Assembly will be obsolete is if there were no new chips processor models being created.

Every time a new architecture or a new instruction group is announced, it has to be bootstrapped into the C compiler.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

How is cobol toy wasn't it made for military?

[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

COBOL is about as far from a "toy" as I can imagine. Almost everything corpo runs on it at some level.

[–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 week ago

And almost no one writes it for fun.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 17 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Where's Latin and Summerian? 🤔

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[–] scroll_responsibly@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] josefo@leminal.space 15 points 1 week ago

ngl I'm pretty mad right now

[–] Awkwardparticle@programming.dev 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why is it missing Haskell?

[–] goatinspace@feddit.org 10 points 1 week ago
[–] gwilikers@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

How is Lua further down along the Nu Lang axis than Go, Rust and Nim?

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