Ah. It’s character.ai
Please include the name of the actual company in your description whe you’re posting a clickbaity title.
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I cannot believe character.ai was valued at over a billion.
^bubble
[bubble goes pop pop]
Get fucked, so-called AI companies. Whatever gave these dumb asses any impression that LLMs will lead to AGI? I hope this bubble pops ASAP.
My personal theory is that AGI is not possible with Binary architecture. I believe that it will take some form of analog computing, the simplest level of which is trinary. -1, 0, and 1.
What is intelligence without the ability to be uncertain?
Then there's full analog computing. It's not a robust field, but is deceptively powerful.
There are these little solar powered robots that automatically move towards light, and it's done with a handful of transistors.
To do the whole thing in binary would take a full processor and a few lines of code.
Any number expressible in ternary, or a base 3 number system, is expressible in binary with a very simple formula to convert between the two. Binary just requires more digits. Fundamentally, a ternary computer is the same as a binary computer in terms of the problems that are decideable.
Ternary computers have been around for a very long time. They are not new, and I fail to see how they are in any way relevant to AGI (which, to be clear, is something that exists purely in the realm of science fiction and not something we're actually going to be accomplishing any time soon). Ternary computing is certainly interesting and can offer potential performance improvements over binary computers in terms of speed/power efficiency for certain specialized applications, but it's not some magical new computing paradigm or something. Oh, and by the way, there's multiple ways of making ternary systems: -1, 0, and 1 is just one system (called balanced ternary).
Also, fuzzy logic (or logic that accounts for uncertainty) has been around for a very long time, and in fact, is exactly what neural networks are using right now. It's encoded using floating point numbers between 0 and 1, which, in binary, are encoded using 32 or 64 bits (or more rarely, 16 bits). Again, not anything new.
And I have no idea what you're talking about with analog.
I mean, analog computing is a thing. The rest of it as you pointed out is mostly incoherent nonsense.
Sure, I just meant that I have no idea how it's at all relevant.
lol true… but it seems just as relevant as ternary numbers!
Ternary is not analog, it's digital. Anything that ternary can do, binary can do, sometimes better, sometimes worse. It's all math, and you can do math in any number base.
You are talking about discrete math and quantum computing.
I think so too. Even how action potentials are received by a neuron, activate a neuron and how it is passed to another neuron is an amazingly complex process. However, these processes might not contribute to the intelligence. In current models they are abstracted away to direct mathematical transformations. But fundamentally, we simply don't know how or what gives rise to intelligence or even what is intelligence. So, I am fairly sure that AGI is very far away.
Yeah we don't think binary, the way quantum computing is described where they can be any state between 0-1 makes more sense for sentience
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
ChatGPT, what does the world's tiniest violin sound like?
I don't think "AGI" when I think custom chatbots....
AGI is when 200 billion dollars according to OpenAI.
BTW AGI is a marketing term for text generator companies marketing their things as "AI". It's not AI, it's a probabilistic text generator.
AI has hype but this is just braindead-take clickbait
AGI is not character.ai's niche
characters are
Their tools are super useful for making characters for vids, NPCs, etc
But if you are trying to cure cancer or prove Fermat's Last Therem you are working with OpenAI or Anthropic... not freaking characterAI
I don’t think you’re working with OpenAI to cure cancer. I think you’re working with actual scientists rather than statistical regurgitations.
I meant, if you are a scientist working on curing cancer.
I wonder if you keep up with that field. I am not an expert but I attend their colloquia
You cured cancer with OpenAI?
Can't wait to hear that story. When is the Nobel prize ceremony?
AI is used in many medical contexts, especially as an excellent pattern matching machine. Throw one shitloads of cancer cell pics or xrays or whatever, let it learn how to recognize. OpenAI is more than what we plebs access on ChatGPT.