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Decision comes after a hearing on Sunday

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[–] cyborganism@piefed.ca 77 points 2 months ago

What's unlawful is not paying your employees for the time they've worked.

What's unlawful is removing their right to go on strike and removing any kind of leverage for them to negotiate.

[–] Idontopenenvelopes@lemmy.world 64 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Air Canada is NOT a crown Corp, what right does the government have to intervene in Union's lawful right to strike. This undermines worker protection in Canada and sets a horrible precedent.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 months ago

Welcome to the control state friend. No wonder everyone thinks of Canada as the US’ little sibling.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 33 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It would be nice if the article explained why the tribunal declared the strike unlawful. What was the rationale?

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 31 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They hurt the economy’s feewings 😔. But in all seriousness they deemed the strike to have too large of an impact on Canadians and the Canadian economy, making them and go back to work. But since the original order was defied now the strike is illegal.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 33 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Thanks - if that was the rationale, then AC should be (re-)nationalized. No private company should be allowed to become so essential to the functioning of our country.

[–] RickyWars@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 months ago

Especially if they show such negligence where they are willing to cause such economic disruption to avoid paying workers fairly.

[–] GrindingGears@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This whole charade where Air Canada is a "private company" definitely needs to come to an end. I totally agree, if it quacks likes a duck, and has a hotline to the government who will premeditatedly act in its favour, or bail out at the first hint of trouble, whelp that's sounding like a government protected company to me too.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago

Especially if that's access the other airlines don't have. Westjet has been on strike before and I don't remember the feds stepping in.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The fuck are they going to do? Arrest all the striking workers? That will sure get them back to work faster.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 months ago (3 children)

The organizers and high level employees can be arrested, and the union can be dismantled under court order. This also means the workers lose any strike rights, like job protection. However, there are nowhere near enough qualified cabin crewmembers laying around in reserve to make any difference. As long as the workers hold firm, AirCanada is in for a bad time.

[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If that were to happen I hope other unions would strike in solidarity. Removing collective bargaining rights from one group removes it from everyone.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago

Oh yeah they’re geared up for that. Source- Am in CUPE but not the same local as the flight attendants.

[–] Penguincoder@beehaw.org 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

the union can be dismantled under court order.

So the government can declare your legal option to collective bargaining as illegal when it doesn't suit them. So then, what is the point of the union and legal protections when they can remove it at a whim...

This is fucked. Yes, I know US did it before too. Same question and reasoning. If the government only allows you to do something, when it doesn't harm their pockets.. it's a useless, feel good 'right' or protection.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Which is why the strike is still on and flights are cancelled. I’m actually directly impacted by this, I am currently stuck in Tokyo since my flight to Tornto was cancelled a few hours ago.

[–] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I just want to say thank you for not letting the personal impact change your position. Too many people will drop a good cause because of a slight inconvenience. Strikes and protests have to inconvenience people, because it's the only leverage they have.

I hope you get home safe, and on a plane where everyone is well paid for their work.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

Meh, AirCanada rebooked me today, I don’t have to be anywhere urgently so I am barely impacted. I’m more annoyed I went from a direct flight to a layover.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago

Exactly. You can’t just hire a bunch of scab flight attendants. Fuck Air Canada.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 months ago

Note that the workers are not breaking the law for striking, the Union leadership is for calling the strike.

But it is very refreshing these last couple years to see our labour organizers have a spine and are willing to take risks for their membership. They are fighting for the rights of all Canadian workers, through action over merely nice words.

[–] BC_viper@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Companies in Canada have learned that they can just wait until the union strikes and then run to the government to force them back to work on the companies terms, and the unions will get on their knees and start sucking. Why would companies negotiate anything if all you have to do is get the government to force them back to work.

[–] BC_viper@lemmy.world 30 points 2 months ago

Nah, absolutely fuck the government. Keep striking. Cause pure chaos and unrest.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago

It's unlawful until the Supreme Court strikes down that section of the law because it's obviously unconstitutional because it takes away their Section 2 right to collective bargaining.

[–] Svpalex@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Air Canada is non essential. Rail, and postal service, health care teachers are. No other option is available. Customers have other options available in most cases and Air Canada has been struggling for a while with public perception and this is bad optics. My home town is only serviced by Air Canada but because they have contacted out the route to Jazz, I'm not affected. But I still have options for an airport an hour away though.

Jazz is AirCanada but their work force are not on the same union

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago

Rail, and postal service, health care teachers are [essential].

It's amazing how badly all those are being managed, right now. Mailposte wants to go private so they can end some bad contracts, rail is largely sold off to greedy corps, and teachers have gotten the shit end of the stick for decades.

For instance, my sister-in-law is retiring soon from teaching. She left the country to find a job that pays a living wage. Why yes, it IS a former Viking nation, and how did you know?

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago

Oh well. 🤷Air Canada can suck a bag of dicks given they expect free work for no pay.