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A record low number of Americans are drinking, according to a new Gallup poll released this week. Just 54% of Americans said they consume alcohol at all.

Gallup has been tracking Americans’ drinking behavior since 1939, and their views of the health implications of drinking since 2001. For the first time, a majority of Americans – 53% – said that moderate drinking, defined as one or two drinks per day, is bad for your health.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

It literally kills your liver

[–] diptchip@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago

It’s literally toxic

[–] Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 81 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Would you look at that, education reducing drug use. Who would have thought? Maybe this is how we reduce the other types of drug use? Nah send them to jail.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 21 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Nah, just elect trump and defund the education system so the alcohol industry can reign supreme.

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[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago (5 children)

It's also bad for the wallet.

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It’s honestly why I rarely drink much now. I am mostly a social drinker so it’s more of the fact it costs more and I am less social these days which puts me off from it. The only times I drink alone is when I want to pair some wine with a meal that complements it or having a few cold beers on the weekend while doing yard work.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

15$ margaritas at restaurants is absurd. More than some meals on menu.

[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Plus I feel like they under pour the alcohol or barely give you the minimum if you do get one. They’re like Starbucks drinks, sugar bombs with a little bit of the ingredient you actually want.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you go to Starbucks, it's because you want sugar, not coffee.

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[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago

During COVID, one of the fun treats I'd get myself to keep my spirits up was a $15 margarita from a local Mexican place that delivered. Totally worth it though because it came in a quart-sized deli container (which I'd use to store the leftovers in after drinking all 32 ounces of that margarita in one sitting).

Since COVID ended, I drink way less and I've lost like 10 or 15 lbs just from that, and I look back on those margaritas with a mixture of fondness, fear, and a tiny bit of disgust.

[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

This. Just like everything else in this country alcohol is getting expensive, not just cheap alcohol but all alcohol. I am not a drinker, but I have on occasions enjoy a drink here and there even for myself the price is too much to enjoy anymore.

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[–] Fondots@lemmy.world 37 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I enjoy drinking, I'm under no delusion that it has any physical health benefits, it's quite literally poison.

There's maybe an argument for it having mental health benefits if used in moderation, but probably not any more than having any hobby or socialization would do for you, we all need to unwind somehow.

Also, this definition of "moderate" drinking really rubs me the wrong way, one to two drinks a day really sounds to me like someone with a drinking problem.

Not that two drinks is really a lot of alcohol, on the occasions I drink, I'll usually have more than that, sometimes a lot more.

But on an average week, I'm having maybe about two drinks, probably less.

And even if I make some pretty wild overestimates about how often I go to parties or whatever and how much I drink there, I still average out to less than 2 drinks a day. More realistically I probably average out to more like ½ a drink per day.

And like I said, I'm someone who likes alcohol. I have a fully-stocked bar at home that would put some nicer establishments to shame. For certain date nights it's pretty much a given that my wife and I are going to kill a bottle of wine between us. I'm certainly no teetotaler.

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

one to two drinks a day really sounds to me like someone with a drinking problem.

This is typical of someone who drinks beer or wine with their evening meal. Many people who do that always do that unless they have a specific reason not to. This is not behavior most medical professionals see as problematic, though it likely has a small health impact/risk.

on the occasions I drink, I’ll usually have more than [two drinks], sometimes a lot more.

The US CDC describes that behavior as binge drinking.

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[–] yonderbarn@lazysoci.al 31 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Couple years ago a NYTimes article showed that alcohol of any type and in any amount is bad for your health. This is quite the departure from people drinking red wine because it was thought to benefit one's health.

https://web.archive.org/web/20250729155025/https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/13/well/mind/alcohol-health-effects.html

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 26 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's because people don't understand statistics, or willfully misunderstand them.

French people are less likely to die from heart failure (than, say, Americans).

French people are more likely to drink red wine (than, say, Americans).

Therefore drinking red wine reduces the risk of heart failure.

Therefore drinking red wine is healthy.

[–] kingofthezyx@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago

It's not even that specifically, at least in my family they latched onto the "resveratrol has health benefits" study, and expanded that to "red wine is healthy"

Like oh yeah cookies are healthy now because eggs have choline. So dumb.

[–] Hardeehar@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

They took the part of the wine that was healthy for you and turned it into a pill. Guess how many people wanted the pill Vs the wine lol

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Wow. 140k deaths is... A lot. For a population of ~330mil that's six times the already ridiculous US homicide rate. Stop drinking, y'all.

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[–] sexy_peach@feddit.org 25 points 3 days ago (6 children)

This is very noticable in Germany as well. So much more zero alcohol beers popping up everywhere.

It's weird I feel old because I remember when everyone was drinking so much

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[–] socsa@piefed.social 27 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Life is bad for your health.

Time is bad for you

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[–] iopq@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Found the cause of the fertility crisis

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

There is no fertility crisis though.

People are plenty fertile lol

they just don't want kids. Also since they don't want them and are satisfied with that, not a crisis

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

They want them, but can't afford a nice place to raise them. It's no wonder in places like SF the fertility rate is much lower than the national average

If only conservative people have kids the youngest voters will lean conservative

[–] KumaSudosa@feddit.dk 1 points 2 days ago

Both things can be true. I think it's something like 25-30% of younger men with sperm cells so weak they'd at least struggle greatly to procreate. Probably more due to microplastics and fastfood though, but drinking doesn't help. Same reason there are so many allergies etc in the West

[–] commander@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I'm of the opinion that there's no reversing a fertility crisis until we make teenage pregnancy great again. A 25 year old has seen too much, knows too much

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Why do you think Republicans regularly try to cut sex ed out of schools?

[–] MyOpinion@lemmy.today 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I just stopped drinking recently as well. It is a much better life.

[–] Jeremyward@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Nearly two years for me, life is better 💪

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 2 days ago

its been well know even moderate or even low amounts of alcohol daily consumption increases risk of cancers.

[–] RedGreenBlue@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 days ago

Once trump has converted USA to Russia, everyone will be an alcoholic again. Then the statistics will be asking how many americans think methanol is bad for you. MAAA

[–] 4grams@awful.systems 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Got too easy during Covid so I took a break. Turns out it agreed with me so haven’t had a drop since. Don’t miss it at all despite being a craft beer fan. Easy to replace and I don’t get stupid when I’ve had too much tea.

[–] Pika@rekabu.ru 7 points 2 days ago

Tea is absolutely an art no less than beer, and if you're there for the ritual or exploration, it offers both.

[–] discosnails@lemmy.wtf 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[–] msmc101@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 3 days ago

i'll just have to double my drinking to make up the deficit then

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 9 points 3 days ago

Kombucha on the other hand is awesome. Plus some Bulgarian yogurt with L.Reuteri. all good things!

[–] commander@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I'll drink occasionally and eat an edible occasionally. Pretty much only socially. I don't get the people who obsessively have to explain why what they're using recreationally is actually healthy. Been around people like that since I was a pre-teen. About middle aged now and they're all a bunch of burnouts including the sad they missed out in their teens/early 20s that decided to dive in late 20s because they watched all the YouTube videos on the benefits. All burned out. Not just alcohol and weed. All my acid, shrooms, ketamine, 2c-i, peyote, dmt, whatever friends - damn near all of them burned out and talk like teenagers in their 30s and 40s. Most generally don't even they're enlightened anymore and just want to chill with drugs

Moderation folks. Don't make drugs your religion or personality and you won't have early emotional burn out in life

[–] jaycifer@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Believe me, I was headed toward emotional burnout long before I discovered drugs.

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