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Former President Donald Trump ramped up his threats to prosecute President Joe Biden if he wins another term in the White House.An appeals court rejected Trump's claims of immunity in the federal election subversion case in the District of Columbia, although he intends to press the same argument in ...

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[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 204 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"If a President does not have Immunity, the Opposing Party, during his/her term in Office, can extort and blackmail the President by saying that, 'if you don’t give us everything we want, we will Indict you for things you did while in Office,' even if everything done was totally Legal and Appropriate," Trump posted on Truth Social.

Leave it to Donnie to misrepresent what the ruling means. Presidents still enjoy lots of immunity, especially where it pertains to their "color of office" duties. They just don't have total immunity from anything and everything, especially where it doesn't pertain to their duties. We do not have monarchs or dictators.

So no, you can't just shoot someone on Fifth Ave and declare Presidential Immunity to avoid justice, and you can't just steal government secrets to use as business leverage, and you can't make phone calls to heads of states to "find votes," and you can't incite an insurrection and claim plausible deniability.

Eat shit. I hope you get no sleep because of these rulings.

[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Yeah but what if the person on fifth Avenue was literally holding the original constitution and threatening to tear it in half? Would presidential immunity apply then?

[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 54 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

Hear me out: what if the person had a pussy and you wanted to grab it?

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 15 points 9 months ago

According to their logic, it is ok if you are famous. Clearly we should base our jurisprudence on fame then. /s

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[–] kromem@lemmy.world 88 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Ah yes, the age old "if you are facing felonies, threaten to blackmail the US President trick."

I'm sure that will work.

[–] platypus_plumba@lemmy.world 52 points 9 months ago

"threaten to blackmail" is such a funny expression, that threat is literally blackmail already.

[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 83 points 9 months ago (1 children)

His uh, posts sound really desperate. 🍿

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 29 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Hey you gonna share that popcorn?

[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 38 points 9 months ago (2 children)

You said when I went to make popcorn that you didn't want any, so I only made enough for myself. I'll go make more though 🍿🍿.

You want cheese powder on it?

[–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago (13 children)

Wait....you can do that? I thought that was a chips-only-condiment-combo. Blowing my fucking mind right now chief.

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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 72 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Can we just, lock him up already?

Please? Or at the very least break his jaw so he has to shut the fuck up while it heals?

We all know he’s guilty. We all know he’s a treasonous insurrectionist. We all know he belongs in prison.

We all know that any normal person would have been hanged by now.

[–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 19 points 9 months ago (3 children)

You'd have to break his fingers too

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 31 points 9 months ago

We need a tiny hammer

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 15 points 9 months ago

No reason he should have his cell phone in jail. He can use the pay web terminals like everyone else, one hour per week with a 56k connection.

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[–] foggy@lemmy.world 71 points 9 months ago

Lmao

He's blackmailing him with blackmail?

That's some real 4d chess, man.

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 64 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Just this whole attitude towards the thing shows how crooked he is. As far as I can tell, Biden has tried to remain hands-off from the Justice Dept and just let them do their own thing to avoid even the appearance of impropriety. And I believe that's more or less been how most Presidents have tried to behave since maybe Nixon EXCEPT for Trump, who seems to view it as his own personal legal hit-squad, to be used for just litigating people he doesn't like, instead of... y'know, administering justice. He completely misunderstands the purpose of government and really should not be allowed anywhere near the position. He should be rotting in prison now, he's a complete shitstain on history.

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[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 61 points 9 months ago

Perfectly reasonable thing to do for someone that clearly never did anything wrong, right?

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 58 points 9 months ago
[–] GilgameshCatBeard@lemmy.ca 48 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Threatening the president is a federal crime, right?

[–] kmartburrito@lemmy.world 25 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Maybe they can kill two birds with one stone - visit him about this threat to the president, and quickly check in the hidden room that they missed during the mar a lardo search warrant.

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[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 46 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Biden should tell him he’ll pardon him if he drops out and then not pardon him.

Biden would probably get charged with murder because that would surely cause the inevitable aneurysm.

[–] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago

Manslaughter at worst

Nobel peace prize likely

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[–] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 45 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I’d hate to say it, but the very act of voting for trump is, at this point, an act of evil.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago

Always has been.

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[–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 44 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Headline is technically true but this is a non story.
Trump is mad about the appeals court ruling that he isn't immune from prosecution and is lashing out.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 58 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Everything about this turd is a non story except for the fact that he incited an insurrection on the US capital for which he has not been committed to prison or executed for. Now that's a story.

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[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 42 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (9 children)

That's going to be really hard to do while you are rotting in custody, Donnie.

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[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 40 points 9 months ago (6 children)

If I threatened Biden with a dirty look, I’d have secret service at my door. But if Trump says he’ll commit a crime, no one does anything.

This really encourages me to want to not obey laws.

[–] guacupado@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you're not already, you're not rich enough to start.

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[–] ME5SENGER_24@lemmy.world 39 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Difference between most Democrats and Republicans is that if a Democrat committed a crime another Democrat would want them prosecuted, same if a Republican committed a crime. Whereas if a Republican committed a crime other Republicans want the charges dropped and if a Democrat committed a crime they’d be calling for the death penalty.

Crimes are bad, mmm-kay. Doesn’t matter what side you’re on, mmm-kay. So, let’s not be bad, mmm-kay.

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[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 37 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

Not a lawyer and not sure if this applies here, but the threat of blackmail itself seems like it should constitute a crime:

18 U.S.C. § 873 (2021)
§873. Blackmail

Whoever, under a threat of informing, or as a consideration for not informing, against any violation of any law of the United States, demands or receives any money or other valuable thing, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.

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[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Your boss, Sleepy Joe, is a man with considerable means and connections, and if he's what you say he is, a communist with the power to imprison you, your plan is to blackmail this person?

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[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 34 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Obama, Bush, and soon, Crooked Joe Biden, would all be in PRISON

Don’t threaten me with a good time! Virtually all U.S. presidents have caused thousands of civilians to be killed in wars we shouldn’t be fighting.

[–] manucode@feddit.de 18 points 9 months ago

We put all our politicians in prison as soon as they're elected. Don't you?
Why?
It saves time.

Terry Pratchett, The Last Continent

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[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 32 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

He's asking Biden to pardon him... "or else..."

[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.world 27 points 9 months ago (4 children)

That sounds like an admission of guilt to me.

Pardons by law are an admission of guilt since like 1925.

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[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 30 points 9 months ago

Do what I say or ill do something horrible!

Honey, that's already blackmail.

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 27 points 9 months ago

That's what Innocent People do!

[–] snownyte@kbin.social 26 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Good. Get unhinged you fuck.

Realize this, fatty donnie, you have a cap of voters. A cap which, you can't even guarantee that you'll meet by the general election should your ass somehow squeak by being on the ballot in every state. You're going to lose because you're a loser in denial, in life, in election and as a human being.

Oh and I bet Donnie has shit through several diapers too throughout this trial. Yeah, imagine that, electing a diaper-shitting president. Good on ya, republitards.

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[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 24 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

Is he threatening the president? Doesn't that usually end with a visit from ~~FBI~~ Secret Service?

Edit: Thank you for the correction...twistypencil?

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[–] Cornpop@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago (2 children)

If you find crimes worthy of putting any of them in prison then do it. Dont threaten us with a good time.

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Everything about this is just awful. The fact that someone so criminal and so thuggish is exactly who about 30% of this country thinks should be President - and they might get their way due to our broken election system (electoral college means a minority get to choose the leader of the free world).

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[–] Ironfist@sh.itjust.works 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Even after being president for 4 years, he still doesn't understand what a president can and cannot do.

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[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Does he not realize that if he gets his wish, there would be nothing stopping Biden from having him assassinated as he walks out of the courthouse?

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Next thing is that he demands a presidential pardon from Biden for his crimes. I can already see him whining on his loser social insurrectionist network.

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[–] 800XL@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Oh fuck off President Piss Tape. You loser.

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[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago

LOCK HIM UP

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