attacking a defenseless neighboring people
They’re so close to figuring it out
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They know. They like committing genocide. They just don’t want international consequences for it.
Its antisemitic to say its bad to bomb defenseless people....
I see where Trump got his name calling ideas from.
All of "his" ideas.
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Someone have context if we haven’t seen the new superman?
Also I want to scream a million times. Israel isn’t Judaism and Judaism isn’t Israel! Mixing that up is problematic because you’re confounding anti-zionism (a settler colonial state project committing genocide) with anti-semitism.
Israel isn’t Judaism and Judaism isn’t Israel! Mixing that up is problematic because you’re confounding anti-zionism (a settler colonial state project committing genocide) with anti-semitism.
Mixing that up is intentional, so that you can be accused of being antisemitic by not supporting Israel. Politicians love to do this.
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At the start of the movie, Superman has just stopped an invasion. The fictional country Barovia, a US ally, has advanced weaponry and attempts to invade and annex a much smaller and poorer fictional country Jarhanpur which doesn't appear to have a military of any kind. Barovia is ethnically white (coded as Eastern European/Russian) and Jarhanpur is ethnically more middle eastern.
It is not a giant leap to correlate these countries to Isreal and Palestine, but really those superficial details are where the the similarities begin and end. There is no apparent religious connection to the invasion, nor terrorist activity. No ongoing tensions, direct involvement from the US goverment in the invasion, or any act of war or other event that triggers Barovia to invade. It is just a powerful country attacking a smaller country for their resources on the orders of a power hungry dictator. It's a trope that is not exclusively related to current events, that made as much sense 50 years ago as it does today. And the purpose of it in the film is to both critique Superman's naivete of geopolitics, and to reinforce his values that every life matters.
People that are mad about it and pretending that it is explicitly a depiction of the Isreali-Palestinian war are projecting meaning that isn't there, at least beyond maybe some subtext. It's always a bit telling when people see generic bad guys in a movie and think, "this is about me!" But, of course, if they felt that the depiction of the overwhelming military force against civilians made the Palestinians seem sympathetic to them... maybe they should think a bit more about why that is.
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I haven't seen it, but I think it's pretty apparent in the trailer. Superman is supermaning, and modern powers, both real and fictional, don't like that.
“Superman has somehow become the focal point of the entire world’s attention and I cannot accept that.”
Damn, Lex Luther is even more an Elon Musk type in this movie huh?
Saw it last night, and yes. Lex had more than one scene inspired by actual Musk actions.
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Wow, it's actually amazing how far they can combine self-awareness and denial so effortlessly.
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It’s not our fault your state became so evil they are interchangeable with cartoon villains.
All this whining about that movie makes me want to see it more and more. If this is intentional, it will be remembered as the best marketing campaign in history.
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Yes it is totally Hollywood making Israel look bad, not the shooting caged brown people part.
The movie unironically blasted Israel beyond a shadow of a doubt. Pretty insane after Bassem Youssef supposedly got fired as superman for being anti Israel 2 years ago. James Gunn redemption arc.
Bloody anti-Semitic Hollywood. It's so typical and clearly there are no Jews working there...
I mean the glass shoe does fit, soooooo...
"How dare you, I've never been described so accurately!"
The "if you're criticizing Israel then you are an antisemitic" argument is getting really really old and fucking tired.
I have never in my life had any issues with anyone who is Jewish just because they are Jewish. Nor will I ever. But I have serious issues with the state of Israel committing war crimes on a daily basis and expecting not to be held accountable.
100%, fuck the country of Israel, the people leading the country, and the people hands on murdering civilians. Death to the IDF.
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This complaint is such an admission. They can't point to a single similarly between Israel and the bad guys in the movie except, "nation with technology advanced weaponry being deployed against unarmed civilians," and they're not even disputing that that's an accurate depiction of what's happening. It's not like they're saying, "this movie parallels Hamas propaganda." They're saying, "depicting colonial genocide negatively is anti-Israel."
They aren't asking that question. They know they are.
They just want everyone to be quiet about it and please, refrain from calling them out.
Imagine picturing a conflict, the kind of classic conflict the world has seen a lot in the past. The conflict in the movie could be a reference to a lot of things that happened for real.
There was not one mention or reference to Israel. We've seen this trope in movies a thousand times.
It's really telling on them, if they put the foot themselves on the table, for everyone to see and also make the shoe fit. For everyone to see.
What's missing in real life, is the good ones arriving and preventing the genocide.
"they're showing a country of mostly white people invading and brutalizing a defenseless country of brown people which is clearly about Israel-palestine"
c/selfawarewolves
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"we're seeing similarities between us and fictional villains and we don't like it"
"Global antisemitism on the rise". Is that because Israel turned genocidal against the Palestinians?
More specifically it's because Israel and its allies are running a successful global campaign of conflating opposition to its genocide with antisemitism, which, in turn, normalises antisemitism, which, obviously, harms Jewish people everywhere.
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If you see yourself in the bad guys actions, maybe do something else...
Self-awareness is tapping them on the shoulder but they refuse to turn around.
The whole “calling out Israel for genocide means you’re antisemitic” line is so worn out and honestly just exhausting, this post made me laugh!
My parents watch PBS Newshour and are very anti-Israel because of what they're doing to Palestine. One night, PBS ran a piece about how Israel's PR was labeling any criticism of Israel's action as "anti-semitism" and my folks were naturally incensed by this. The very next night, PBS ran a piece about the statistically increasing occurrence of anti-semitism in the world - without any discussion of just the possibility that much of that increase is due to criticisms of Israel being labeled as anti-semitism. My parents, of course, were then incensed about all the anti-semitism.
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They're mad that they're identifying with the genocidal, colonizing villains of the story?
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Well, if the shoe fits.
I like how they don't even bother saying it's a lie. They just say it's aimed at them.
Andor is just one such example of this.
This shit is why I joke that every work of fiction needs to end with the protagonist staring directly at the camera and explaining what the audience is supposed to take away from it, 1950's style, because people are too stupid for subtlety. Yes, yes, very clever to name the site of a genocide "G[horman Pl]aza," and have a character specifically emphasize the word "genocide" in a Senate chamber, but StrikeEagle784 sees all that and goes, "Wow, cool lasers" without understanding anything about anything.
Now, imagine if Andor ended with Cassian taking a seat and saying, "Hi, I'm Cassian Andor, and I hope you enjoyed the show. Were you moved by the plight of the Ghormans and inspired to fight the Empire? Well, just like how the Empire conducted a genocide against Ghorman, in real life, the US and Israel are committing genocide against the people of Gaza. That's actually the reason why that's in the show. Early on, I tried to turn a blind eye to injustice, but I found that ignoring the problem didn't make it go away. This is also true in real life. In summary, the genocide in Gaza is bad and you should do something about it."
Would that be stupid and annoying? Yes. But this is the level of art that we deserve. At least, it's the level of art that StrikeEagle784 deserves.
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I actually want to watch Superman now, and I will 100% assume this genocidal US ally is a stand-in for Israel and appreciate it all the more for it, because the shoe certainly fits.
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Superman ripped off Edgar Rice Burroughs John Carter novels.
John Carter was from Virginia but was transported to Mars where he exhibited super strength and great leaping ability due to the lower gravity. Siegalman and Shuster reversed the premise and had an alien come to earth with...great strength and great leaping ability due to the lower gravity. Flying came later. Nothing about Moshe.
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you call them PRO-PALIS? does that mean youre ANTI-PALESTINE?? KIND OF A WEIRD THING TO SAY
"If the shoe fits"... So maybe sit with your thoughts a bit longer to a logical conclusion instead of jumping to social media to dump your little thought vomit.
Pretty soon even Schindler's List will be "anti-Semitic" for these people...
Oh I guess I'm going to see the new Superman now.
Well, if the shoe fits.
That being said. Free palestine ♡
Reddit has been actively alienating users who despise fascism, so these pro-fash topical whinges are only going to grow more echo-chambery
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