I have used KeePassXC for years. I also use Syncthing which syncs files via my wifi for all devices, including KeePass.

It really depend on your threat model, Proton Pass is fine. Of course a self-hosted or local solution will be more privacy friendly but at the cost of being responsable for security and good backups (3,2 1 rule).

There is no black or white regarding privacy. You want to ask yourself what you want to protect from and is the investment worth being sovereign ?

There have been too many data breaches from cloud-based services to trust another one. I have a Proton account for email and online storage, but I won't use their password service because it's cloud based.

https://blog.lastpass.com/posts/notice-of-recent-security-incident

Lastpass leaked their password database in 2022, and bad actors are still using it to access peoples files, stealing passwords and hundreds of thousands of dollars in crypto.

DON'T trust anything important to cloud-based storage or services. Use Keepass. Use Syncthing if you need to keep the database on multiple devices.

(I see other comments using Dropbox. Dropbox = cloud. Don't store anything security related in the cloud.)

Why not Bitwarden?

I like KeepAss.

I know it's not your question, but have you checked out Bitwarden or the alternative Selfhosted Vaultwarden. Bitwarden supports passkeys and vault syncing, and if you are offline you can still access your vault.

https://bitwarden.com/passwordless-passkeys/

Bitwarden also released a AIO selfhosted docker image, but last I checked it's still not in "official release" status.

I use KeepassXC on my computer and Keepass2Android on my phone. Passkeys work fine and are synchronized across my Synology.

Do both local and cloud backup using keepass or keepassxc, use dropbox or g drive, or private cloud. The .kdbx file is already encrypted when at rest.

you should own your data. So yes

I think I've done the opposite of most. After using keepassx for the last 4 or 5 years I switched to ProtonPass.

I value security and privacy but Ive realized some of my processes have become too complex, like using syncthing to keep my keepass on my phone and PC aligned. I'm not confident that older man version of me will be able to keep up so Ive stared valuing simplicity.

Im sure many will argue that it is simple but between backups and keys and passwords it really is a lot, especially with a new device each time.

I like that I'm able to use keepassxc as a keyring on Linux. I like that there is a prompt on access so no rogue script can real my whole keyring.

KeePass then you have your own file instead of relying on a third party. And you are free to sync it how you wish , syncthing is great . I left proton earlier since I don't trust them , but never used the proton pass at all.

I think proton is the most blocked by governments group of services in the entire world. To have a backup in .kbdx file sounds at least like a good idea.

Doesn’t keypass support passkeys?

As you can see from the thread, this question is divided amongst the cult of “sensible privacy is a thing provided you’re not a criminal” to the cult of “everybody’s on a FEMA/🧊 spreadsheet and they’re working their way down”.

I’d say make sure you use a separate password for proton pass, it’s an advanced option. You are far more likely to get hacked for your money and password manager goes 97% of the way to defeating those attacks.

Don’t take your eye off the ball. The real threats to your wallet have always been the shareholders.

i use keepassxc and from protonpass and its great its a lot lot more manuel work but in theory its worth it anything with a internet connection can be hacked

personally I use keepass for important things and don't sue extension or anything that would pull from it and I use bitwarden for unimportant passwords. not that bitwarden is necessarilly unsafe but im a person who ultimately thinks its best I completely control the important things.

Syncthing is fine and secure, but be absolutely sure you set up some kind of file versioning for the shared folder. at least a trashcan versioning, if not better. protects you against accidental deletion

It will always be safer to store sensitive information in a system that you control than in a system that someone else controls. KeePass is easy to setup, it's easy to use, and it provides excellent protection.

At least KeePassium also supports passkeys.

Any specific reason that makes Proton Pass less secure? I am curious since I am using both pass and bitwarden at the moment. bitwarden for all my logins and pass for alias + their logins.

Or use vaultwarden to have the convenience of syncing your data to a personal server or computer and have passkeys.