This seems like wishcasting. More likely, they're watching their own back by getting orders in writing when possible. If the noose ever starts to close, all truly incriminating official records will be destroyed just like Berlin in 1945. It will be their word against anyone else's.
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That's a nice fantasy. Unless you have any proof of even a single one of these Nazis ever doing this once...?
i wouldnt call it smart, they are hiring formally felony/convicted people that are mostly unhirable anywhere else. its mostly gravy seals/ and formerly charged people. they would most likely be charged for aiding and abetting kidnapping, if even charges are brought up.
semper fudge
If you guys think we're getting a truth and reconciliation hearing after this administration, then you have too much faith in the dead institutions which led to Trump's election. The United States is over, after this. 100 years from now it will be obvious in hindsight
If you guys think we're getting a truth and reconciliation hearing after this administration, then you have too much faith in the dead institutions which led to Trump's election. The United States is over, after this. 100 years from now it will be obvious in hindsight
Oh, it's never going back the way it was.
This is clearly fascism, those are clearly concentration camps, and that's the Gestapo running around.
You don't just walk that back.
I mean, Germany is doing alright these days from what I understand.
It was bombed into near oblivion by 2 world powers, who's gonna do that to America?
Define "alright". Fascism is on the rise here, too.
Because in exchange for ruining Europe they were given massive investments from the US. But now that the boom is over the Nazis are back to being trendy. Germans are the most shameless people I've seen when it comes to racism, it's quite astonishing
If you want to go down the path of defeatism without putting up a fight, then yeah. Go fulfil your prophecy.
Spades are broken. Die is cast. Etc.
This country might limp along for a few decades. But the USA as we knew it is dead. Do you really think Chump is the only fascist with aspirations that big? Do you think the Heritage Foundation goes away when the One Big Beautiful Obituary finally drops? Do you think they won't try again? Do you think MAGA won't enthusiastically leap at the next swaggering fascist?
Our institutions are not built to withstand such direct assault. The intentional dismantling we've been seeing. The regulatory, legislative, legal, and economic capture that has occurred. If it isn't a strongman it'll be some businessman who isn't a failure. One with big Corp backing.
The sheer momentum of the dollar and power of US financialization will keep things going. The branding will remain. But little if anything will stop our continuing decline. Saying nothing of the damage done internationally. Geopolitically. The US can never be trusted on anything ever again longer than a 4 year timetable because at any time we could elect another used car salesman or failed gameshow host who wants to be a dictator.
I'm sorry, who's saying the US will go back to what it once was? If you want to lay down and die, go right ahead, but do it on your own time.
I'm tired. I would prefer immediate collapse to slow decline. It is going down. Sooner or later. Damage done. Which is not something I lament in itself. This is an evil country that has done incalculable harm to the world. The passing of the US wont be mourned by anyone who's opinion is worthy of respect.
What I don't understand is why you have to try to drag everyone else down with you, and that makes you sound like you're already "mourning the country". Like I said, if you're tired, you go ahead and lie down on your own, please.
I am just as powerless to stop any of this as you are. You go be poppy and exuberant for the both of us. Good luck to you.
Yeah, we're relatively powerless individually, but not collectively, and you seem keen on preventing that from happening at all. There are judges overturning decisions, we got apps tracking ICE, there are mass protests happening outside, we got people helping others survive. There is a large push back, and we need more of it, not less. It's mind-boggling that your immediate stance is why bother doing anything at all, and you seem to be pulling all the stops to justify it. If you won't help, at least stop being a negative Nancy for those who will. We're all doing our part, even if you're not.
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Personally I can't picture an ICE agent that is anticipating a regime change within their lifetime, but I could be wrong.
Personally I can't picture an ICE agent that is anticipating a regime change within their lifetime, but I could be wrong.
There is a very specific reason that ICE agents and other collaborators strive to hide their identities.
They would not feel the need to do so if they believed, deep down where it counts, that they were on the right side of history, and that the regime will last indefinitely.
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