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[–] NotSpez@lemm.ee 19 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The way I see it, all of us who migrated here won. Enshitification is eventually going to kill reddit, the only question is when. I’ll grab some popcorn when it happens, but for now won’t worry about it and just enjoy my time here on Lemmy.

[–] speck@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

It might not even kill it. Facebook is still kicking, after all, for all its enshittification. It's just... idk, some of us were freed to move on to a more satisfying experience. That's all. Life continues here, life continues there

[–] Lemmylefty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, I agree with this suspiciously named man. Whether it happens sooner or later, Reddit’s death is on the horizon, as it will keep making the wrong choices and so steadily lose those communities and content that built it in the first place.

[–] Decoy321@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Reddit won't actually die, it'll just be a hollow shell of what it once was.

To illustrate my point, Digg still exists.

[–] JDPoZ@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

It won't die. It will just hollow out. Same as Digg. Same as Facebook, Twitter, and every other shitty part of the internet. The power users are what make the internet the magical place it is. Without those people, the sites will still work... but they won't be as great as they were before their respective turning points. It's a cycle it seems.

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Nah, I won. We won. We found better platforms like Lemmy, Mastodon, and KBin.

I'm not going back to reddit, there's simply no need.

[–] RQG@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I think I won. I found a place I like more than reddit. Maybe we won even. We all got this place right here now. It's nice.

Maybe reddit won. Maybe they wanted to get rid of us and succeeded. Could be easier to milk the platform for shareholders after getting rid of anyone who would protest beforehand.

Maybe it doesn't matter because neither side needs the other anymore. Both sides changed and don't fit back together anymore.

Certainly declaring a winner in this situation is dumb.

[–] Peruvian_Skies@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

If Reddit won, why have Lemmy and Kbin's userbases grown so steeply since June? Why has the quality of Reddit's content plummeted terribly? Why is /r/place just one endless ocean of "fuck spez"?

Reddit only "won" in the same way that Florida "won" against illegal immigrants and is now facing a massive workforce shortage in essential industries.

Reddit may not be dead yet, but it's mortally wounded already. It's bleeding out and will be dead in every way that matters soon.

[–] Skyraptor7@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

That title is a bit misleading. Reddit mods might have stopped protesting, but the news of the implosion was quite significant. The existence of Lemmy is a testament to this. I don’t think their IPO is going to be as strong as they had hoped. That financial impact is quite opposite of the victory they claim to have achieved.

Also, the posts on Reddit and the responses have declined in quality in my opinion.

[–] shortwavesurfer@monero.town 1 points 2 years ago

At least personally i have not been on reddit for more than 10 minutes total since the middle of June. I am but one person, but i dont see how they can declare themselves the winners.

[–] vamp07@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They were always going to win. It's their platform. They can do whatever they want. But... They lost my attention and paid subscription. I now only go to Reddit when I'm looking for something I can't find elsewhere. It used to be my favorite platform.

[–] Zeroxxx@lemmy.my.id 0 points 2 years ago

Reddit's main advantage is the historic number of contents and knowledge posted by their users.

It will take decades for this advantage to shift, if even possible, to similar type like Lemmy or other platforms.

[–] MaryAnna@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Tanked reputation, loyal user base gone like the window, no 3rd party support what so ever and the face of the company making a total ass out of himself. Yeah sure, if you call that a 'win'

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They still have a lot of traffic. So yeah, they did win.

But you know who else won? The Fediverse. This place feels really active now and has the added benefit of feeling just a bit more wholesome.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

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[–] Clbull@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Reddit won the war because your stereotypical Reddit mod is a spineless narcissist who wields their banhammer as a coping mechanism for their real life issues. It's like being an internet caretaker was the only way they could gain any kind of validation.

They could very easily have overwhelmed the site and brought Reddit's admins to their knees had they collectively disabled automoderator, unbanned every user and just refused to enforce any rules (incl sitewide ones.) But the moment Reddit started threatening to demod people, they caved incredibly quickly, or tried to pull off alternative forms of protest to piss off the admins, but not to the point where they'd be immediately demodded and purged, á la AwkwardTheTurtle.

Anyone could have seen this coming from a mile away the moment we started seeing r/pics and r/videos push dumb rule changes like expletives in titles, text only, sexy pics of John Oliver, etc...

Honestly the only good thing that came out of the API protests were iBleeedOrange and AwkwardTheTurtle being permabanned from Reddit, and it's bittersweet that the hill Reddit chose to kill them on was over third-party apps.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)
[–] Clbull@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Not sure why either. My guess is that it had something to do with when he changed the rules of r/interestingasfuck and effectively turned it into a porn sub to spite the site's advertisers. But I only recall him and everybody else being forcibly demodded. Maybe he threw some incredibly colorful language at the admins and got banhammered.

As much as I loathe iBleeedBullshit and think he's a power-tripping asshole who doesn't even understand the rules of the subreddits he used to moderate (had a few online altercations with him in the past), Spez is acting even more childish, to the point where the power mod purge feels nowhere near as cathartic as it should have...

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

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[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago

LOL, GTFO here.

Digg took months to die.

[–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub -5 points 2 years ago

I don’t care, good riddance. Fucking MySpace is still around too, doesn’t mean igaf

Reddit can continue to rot and choke on that CCP dick