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[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Can someone explain why flatpak isn't necessary for distros that have proper OS dependency management like Arch-based distros or Nix?

Seems like flatpak is solving a problem for OS's that don't have proper dependency management.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

You answered your own question. Arch and Nix solve the same problem Flatpak solves, but by using better dependency management. Flatpak’s main proposition is built-in sandboxing and convenience, but if you’re on an “expert” oriented distro like Arch (btw), you probably don’t care as much about those “freebies.”

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

In that case flatpak is basically a hack for OS's with broken or improper dependency manangement systems. Either those OS's should fix their broken systems, or ppl should move to OS's that do it properly, as that's one of the most important functions of your OS anyway.

[–] frozenspinach@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

Also pretty much everywhere you're using flatpaks (or snaps or...), you are doing it on top of a Linux system that's still getting its core system updates via traditional dependency management. And flatpaks, despite trying not to, make assumptions about your kernel, your glibc version, architecture, ability to access parts of your filesystem or your devices, that can break things, and doesn't bother to track it.

And the closer you get you tracking that stuff (like Snap tries to), you hilariously just get back to where you started, with traditional dependency management that already exists and has existed for decades.

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[–] machinya@hexbear.net 1 points 1 week ago

i mostly use them for proprietary stuff or for software that is incredible painful to package (mostly electron apps). i will probably never use them for anything that actually matters but i also use rolling release distros everywhere so latest release is never too far. for testing latest version of any software i prefer appimages since they are simpler and don't need a messy setup as flatpak, but i also won't use them pass the testing phase and i prefer packaging the software if possible.

snaps, on the other hand, will never go near any of my systems. not even by accident

[–] fatur0000new@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

I like flatpak, but I can't download Flathub flatpak applications and (specially) Flathub flatpak runtimes from my phone. I hope Flathub learns from F-Droid

[–] PillowD@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I've never had a problem with flatpaks or snaps.

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