The closest I've ever gotten was getting someone who was an eth investor to send some eth to a swap address so I could get paid in XMR for something I was selling on FB Marketplace.

I think probably more people would be willing to pay me in XMR but only if there was a dead simple and fast way of acquiring it and using it, which there isn't.

And then on top of that, it would probably have to be at a discount to offset the trouble for them.

Cake wallet's buy feature is not fast and simple and you have to KYC up the ass just to find out it doesn't even work.

The simplest way I thought of was to ask a buyer to meet me at a Bitcoin ATM so they could put their cash in the ATM and I make them send to my address.

Let's hear some success stories or failure stories, have you ever convinced regular people to use XMR? Whether buying or selling, I'd like to hear it.

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[–] Typewar@infosec.pub 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It's a bit unfortunate. In 2018, I was envisioning a future where people generally would pay using cryptocurrency.. because it is a technology that works by design, decentralized.. how is this not just the set solution?

At the time i was selling some used stuff on our national popular marketplace, but nobody wanted to pay me with crypto.

Now lately it just carries this dark atmosphere of being used for bad and illegal services.

Me and my close friend would send each other crypto when owning up for stuff like paying the rest of the half of the food when he paid for us both. He lost interest, and we eventually went back to normal stuff.

Though with the hopefully coming traction of decentralized services like fediverse services, maybe we'll also then see a new traction of cryptocurrency being an ok option for payment again.

[–] edisondotme@monero.town 3 points 1 week ago

Me and my close friend would send each other crypto when owning up for stuff like paying the rest of the half of the food

Same, I almost convinced a friend of mine to start settling debts in crypto, but he later decided not to because he had heard that this could be a "taxable event" and wanted to be squarely obedient to the IRS.

Now lately it just carries this dark atmosphere of being used for bad and illegal services.

I explained how Monero could fix that, but he immediately said no because he had heard about "bad actors" using Monero. He wanted to use algorand. Some people don't want to be saved.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Back when binance supported xmr it was dead simple to get someone you were doing business with to make a binance account and give you a xmr deposit address.

Local handyman, remote workers, etc. any recurring business relationship could map to this . As long as they saw you as a ongoing stream of revenue they would set it up.

[–] edisondotme@monero.town 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Some people have said that the exchange delistings of Monero is good for the cryptocurrency because they can dishonestly influence the price. Would you agree or disagree with this based on your comment?

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Strong disagree, xmr needs to be transactional, the more onramp and offramp options the better.

[–] edisondotme@monero.town 2 points 1 week ago

On/off ramps, yes! I agree that delistings are more bad than good, but I do worry about paper monero on exchanges. Self custody is best but proof of reserves at the very least.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If someone asked to be paid in crypto. I'd assu.e they're a criminal and bail out.

[–] edisondotme@monero.town 1 points 1 week ago

Yes, I've encountered this before. Unfortunately crypto as a whole has been sullied by criminals and scammers so much so that regular people just turn away at its mention.

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Dear [Product or Service Dealer],

I only do this type of business using XMR. I'm not the only one.

Monero (XMR) is a private, secure, and censorship-resistant digital currency designed for people who value financial privacy. Unlike other cryptocurrencies XMR protects both sender and recipient identities and prevents third parties from viewing transaction amounts.

More businesses and individuals are accepting XMR every day because it works. Transactions are fast, inexpensive, and final. There's no middleman, no delays, and no exposure of your financial information.

Accepting XMR is easy. You can use a wallet on your phone or computer, and you don't need to link it to a bank. If you're unsure how to start, I’d be happy to walk you through the simple setup process.

If you're open to giving it a try, let me know! I'd love to do business.

Best regards, [Your Name]

[–] daedalus@monero.town 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Problem is for most is that if they're only first being introduced to XMR their first thought is: how do I swap it to fiat. Since offramping is getting harder, this obstacle becomes larger. I think a growing monero counter economy helps this a lot, having lots if things to buy would alleviate the need to deal with fiat. Another help would be if bitcoin takes off as a household name as it seems to be heading towards since non kyc swaps to bitcoin are quite easy, and if atomic swaps become the norm, perfectly risk free.

[–] edisondotme@monero.town 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

how do I swap it to fiat This is funny because if someone paid me in XMR I would be ecstatic and would never even consider swapping to fiat because of how valuable the XMR is!

The other issue I've encountered is that the moment I mention crypto, people are immediately thinking "How does this scam work?"

Just recently I was trying to sell something on Facebook Marketplace and the guy wanted me to deliver. I agreed but I was going to use Uber Courier to deliver and thus I'd require payment up front. I told him he could pay with Zelle, but he said he didn't have any of that. So I offered him the option to deposit cash into his local Bitcoin ATM to send to me. I told him I understand if he wouldn't want to since this is exactly how some scams on there work since there's no guarantee I'd even send the thing to him. He never replied.

The price of anonymity with XMR is trust.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 1 week ago

anonymity with XMR is trust.

Trust and anonymity don't go together