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I don't get why the real left don't unite under the greens instead of splitting the vote.
Greens come out with some crazy policies sometimes which turn off leftie voters.
Why don’t Greens align on a sensible, costed and achievable progressive policy platform instead of making half their manifesto fringe issues like banning GM food, banning nuclear power, interfering in medical research etc.
I mean their headline policy rn is a wealth tax which seems pretty popular
Yes the concept of a wealth tax is indeed popular in the UK right now, but the challenge as with similar taxes that target the wealthy (like capital gains taxes) is that there are so many loopholes that implementing it to be effective is really tough. An example:
most wealthy individuals have very little in the bank, and their wealth is based on notional ownership of valuable assets like companies. this is just one example of where it will be very difficult to implement a tax system that doesn’t cause business owners to take their money elsewhere to invest, or on the other hand to have endless court battles to force them to sell assets at some value to pay a tax bill.
Well maybe then the real solution isn't creating a new party but doing what liberals have and taking over the party. Just like liberals have taken over the labor party why can't left is like Corbyn take over the Green Party?
Cos they're mad.
If anyone actually believes the greens are meaningfully left wing then I have a bridge co-operative you can join.
They're just crusties who had a wash.
Left wing politicians can't help but apply ideological purity tests to each other while the right is a large tent that all march to the same drum beat.
Righty tighty, lefty loosey.
There is still distrust of the Greens when they joined that call of SNP and Lib Dems to call for election at the opportune time Boris wanted it. Labour under Corbyn said it was best to get the Brexit question resolved first and it gave Boris his big win and the chaotic Brexit he pushed through.
Don't get me wrong, until today Green's were the best choice for left wing, but it's lacking leadership since Lucas stepped down.
There is still distrust of the Greens when they joined that call of SNP and Lib Dems to call for election at the opportune time Boris wanted it.
That seems a pretty shit reason to distrust both the Greens or Lib Dems or the SNP. It benefits only the incumbent Tory and Labour hegemony.
It's like millennials greeting upset over the fact that the Lib Dems had to rethink student loans when in coalition and then refusing to vote for them despite the Lib Dems being one of the only parties willing to come out against Brexit. Muh student loan is worth more than Brexit so I'll vote for Labour that introduced student loans and positively supports Brexit fucking stupid logic.
Iirc the issue was they said they wouldn't and broke ranks for an opportunity.
Lib Dems campaigned on student loans. They got seats and support because of it, and many felt betrayed. They rebrand themselves often. They're the rich but nice party. Free market capitalism with a plastic carrier bag tax. You forget they enabled austerity, and supported health reform that lead to the nursing shortage. They could have held firm on their red lines but they got drunk on opportunity. The question is if they ever cared about Brexit or saw an opportunity to position the party and ran with it.
Trust is a big thing in politics for lefties.
letsgooo
Aaaand it appears to be dead already.
Great, let's split the vote even more, to the benefit of Reform.
A party whose leader just the other day said that he thinks gay marriage was a mistake and shortly before that was talking about restricting womens' right to an abortion.
Fucking brilliant. I hope people enjoy a Reform government.