The bottom LOSER, MOOCHER, BROKE-BOY, DRUG ADDICTED, NO TALENT, UNSOPHISTICATED, PEASANT 60% of US households.......
Cowardly media freaks, say it with your chest
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You just know Trump wants to say this about poor white trash but he can't, at least not yet, anyway.
bottom 60%
have you been reading my diary
bottom 60%
Article: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cost-of-living-income-quality-of-life/
The analysis, from the Ludwig Institute for Shared Economic Prosperity (LISEP), looks beyond whether people can afford daily necessities like food and shelter to consider whether they have the means to pay for things like the technology tools necessary for their jobs, higher education, and health and child care.
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The Ludwig Institute also says that the nation's official unemployment rate of 4.2% greatly understates the level of economic distress around the U.S. Factoring in workers who are stuck in poverty-wage jobs and people who are unable to find full-time employment, the U.S. jobless rate now tops 24%, according to LISEP, which defines these groups as "functionally unemployed."
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By those standards, the lowest-earning Americans around the U.S. are falling well short of what they need to maintain a decent standard of living, according to LISEP. These households, which in 2023 earned an average of $38,000 per year, would need to make $67,000 to afford the items the group tracks as part of its index, which also includes the cost of professional clothing and basic leisure activities.
The analysis, from the Ludwig Institute for Shared Economic Prosperity (LISEP), looks beyond whether people can afford daily necessities like food and shelter to consider whether they have the means to pay for things like the technology tools necessary for their jobs, higher education, and health and child care.
Gee I wonder why people aren't having kids anymore, must be the white genocide!
Btw this is what I mean when I say that the United States barely counts as part of the imperial core
Western Europe is the imperial core. The average Western European materially benefits from the spoils of imperialism and lives a high quality life because of it. The average American is an exploited colonial subject.
The United States is still a colony, the European Empires just consolidated and moved their headquarters to the colony.
I think the United States is still the imperial core because it's where all the power resides and where all the powerful people take refuge. It's just that most Americans are not part of the imperial core even if they are forced to reside within its borders.
A subset of Internal Colonialism Theory that explains the dual nature of the US is called Differential Segregation, an adapted internalized version of the same strategy used in colonial and neocolonial client states overseas
The deliberate creation of comprador classes within every US demographic, income and zip code based for minority groups and the country club/urban-rural divide among white Americans
Differential Segregation is the de facto social organizing principle of US society, it's obvious in a kind of "You see it only when you notice it" way
Found this article but most everything that Google is giving me is from paywalled academic journals - if you have any other recommended reading please let me know.
Edit - Particularly interested in more recent work. The Robert Allen study on internal neocolonialism they cite is from 1969 and the Lawrence Friedman book that discusses "differential segregation" is from 1970, and I'm curious to see this applied to post-2008 developments as well.
I'm going with this. Also a bit of "why not both?" US/EU can both be basically equal. I don't see a point in distinguishing beyond wanting to get into the details (which is fine, whatever)
As far as the most Americans not being part of it, I think that's a yes and no situation.
Yes in that most Americans don't benefit in a really meaningful way from being in the imperial core. And the few benefits which used to exist are quickly eroding to nothing.
I'd say no because, for now anyway, there does remain the benefit of like "not being drone striked randomly" that all the direct targets of US imperialism must contend with every day of their lives. That's a pretty substantial benefit to living in the core. Or has been at least. For the most part. Of course that outward display of violence is also quickly falling back in and worsening within the US on basically a day to day basis. Instead of guys with "US Army or Marines" printed on their camo suits being the ones illegally snatching people up, shooting them, etc. it's masked hoglets in civilian clothing or maybe police-esque uniforms with kevlar vests saying "POLICE ICE." Same end result.
I think there's a psychological argument to be made as well along the lines of "because they believe it's true, it becomes true." I guess meaning that even if the majority of Americans no longer benefit from living in the imperial core, if they still believe they benefit due to conditioning, propaganda, etc. then it kinda doesn't matter. They position themselves against the rest of the world and willingly submit to a mindset that allows imperialism to continue. Sort of like the mythos of the core and what it provides is more important than reality.
That feels really weird in my mind, maybe someone else has explained it better. But much like a lot of stuff we take for granted, such as the entire global financial system, I can entertain an idea that the imperial core need not benefit the majority of citizens in it to be the imperial core. All it requires is the power projection through military and economic means. If the average citizens of the core are complacent through propaganda or through actual substantial material gains, it doesn't really matter in the end. Wealth extraction is still happening regardless of how that wealth is spread back at home. The western EU currently spreads it more equally in comparison to the US, but that doesn't really matter.
(Sorry for rambling and long reply. Was sort of working out why I agree with this sentiment and just kept typing. Oh well)
I want to agree but in the years post-wwii america had a huge boom that dwarfed europe in standard of living. ofc this only lasted for what a decade or two then it all gut gutted for neoliberalism and now fascism.
This is why I think that while countries are an important unit of analysis, proper categorizing of core, periphery, and semi-periphery needs to be more fine grained too.
The US definitely is part of the imperial core, and indeed is the hegemon of the capitalist-imperialist world system. But, that doesn't mean that there aren't peripheral and semi peripheral parts of the US.
It's the correct analytical framework for understanding the modern imperial capitalism that ignores national borders
I think it makes more sense to frame it as the US being multiple countries. The DC-NY corridor is the imperial core. California is one of the more privileged client states like South Korea. The middle is exploited colonies.
No. USAins don't get to extract themselves from this. The spoils of empire are unevenly distributed but the USA is the fucking great Satan, you are complicit and the fact that you get ripped off in the deal doesn't change that. The American heartland isn't a fucking colony, it's a neglected region.
the fact that you get ripped off in the deal doesn't change that
What deal? When does the typical American sign it?
I dont accept the dichotomy of colony-or-neglected-region. It’s ruling class versus the working class, always has been.
It’s not realistic or useful to conceive of entire societies as class-conscious conspirators. No country has ever achieved that kind of uniform ideology, not even the Soviets nor communist China.
Abstract theory is of far lesser importance compared with the material circumstances of one’s own life, in terms that one understands. This generally means issues local to one’s town, neighborhood, and household. Thinking larger than that is pretty much unnatural and requires dedicated effort.
A backward family in, say, rural Kansas is going to be mostly aware and educated of their immediate issues, like the success of their farm and the stability of their family. All other issues of politics are viewed through this lens. When Junior joins the military, his family celebrates because it’s a path to economic stability for them, and they have little reason to doubt US foreign policy propaganda. They have no tangible experience that might be had in Ferguson or Philly or NYC. They’re basically ignorant (though not necessarily more ignorant in every way compared with the urban proletariat)
Over the last forty years, the human landscape of the United States has been fundamentally transformed. The metamorphosis is partially visible in the ascendance of glittering, coastal hubs for finance, infotech, and the so-called creative class. But this is only the tip of an economic iceberg, the bulk of which lies in the darkness of the declining heartland or on the dimly lit fringe of sprawling cities. This is America’s hinterland, populated by towering grain threshers and hunched farmworkers, where laborers drawn from every corner of the world crowd into factories and “fulfillment centers” and where cold storage trailers are filled with fentanyl-bloated corpses when the morgues cannot contain the dead.
https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/distributed/H/bo28433484.html
One of the telltale signs that a leftist has matured in their analysis of imperialism is their introduction to 'Internal Colonialism Theory'
Even more impressive if that leftist comes to those conclusions without ever encountering Robert Blauner
Maturing as a leftist is when you reinvent Larouchian ideas about how the British are still colonising the Americans from first principle.
Internal Colonialism Theory posits the US is internally colonized by US elites through a historically continuous process of demographic management and settler-corporate consolidation, thereby creating a political culture of anti-solidarity between working class demos who fall under either "managed" or "colonialized" brackets depending on their class and racial position
So obviously not something that can be confused with the right-wing wrecker stupidity of LaRouchism
This is literally stating that America is exploited by the first world which is actually in Europe. It is not a reframing of internal exploitation.
Just what do you think "internal" is referring to? The theory is focused on HOW US elites interact with the country they rule, which is in a colonial fashion, lessons learned from overseas replicated and adapted to subdue working class demographics within the United States, particularly Black people who represented the most radical edge of the working class and as a hyper-exploitable class of people
The theory is a Marxist derived formulation to explain both HOW and WHY the white working class and black elites protect the system that destroys themselves and the people who they should have a natural solidarity with; that through-line led directly to the development of the sub theory of Differential Segregation which, is a far more accurate description of HOW labor aristocracy actually works in the United States, that also does away with the false binary of either race or class determination
The thing I'm pointing out is that the posts being made here reframe the US as a country where parts of it are not part of an imperial core which is actually western europe and not the US itself, not the idea that the the US elite extracts wealth from the working class in the united states. The post you initially responded to literally just says "Parts of the US is poor so it's second or third world and the standard of living is high in western europe so it's first world". It is literally stating that the United States, as an entity, is still the victim of European colonialism. Are you kidding me. It is not some deep analysis of the way in which the economy of the rust belt interacts with financial centers and the actual colonised countries of the world.
The original commenter wasn't implying Western Europe is the principal agent of exploitation within the United States, you're being uncharitable
They were simply pointing out the conditions of Western Europe do not resemble the colonialized local conditions of many parts of the United States, that's true, because unlike the United States social democracy was allowed to flourish and the spoils of empire were more easily distributed then in the US
The United States is still a colony, the European Empires just consolidated and moved their headquarters to the colony.
I mean come on, do you seriously think op believes British elites moved their London mansions and castles to the US and secretly rule DC in favor of the secret North American British Empire?
NO, obviously op was talking about the WASP elite of the United States, who do in fact rule this country through a mechanism of internal colonialism
The existence of a social democratic project does not elevate a country to the imperial core, that is not the difference between exploiter and exploited. Western Europe is part of the "First world" they are the colonisers and part of the imperial core because they benefit from the superprofits extracted from the imperialist and colonialist machine, not because they have a welfare state. If an exploited nation builds a social safety net it doesn't become part of the imperial core, if France had a sudden economic crash but retained its colonial extraction it wouldn't cease to be the imperial core. This isn't fucking materialist analysis, this is just someone saying "Some Americans are poor so they're not part of the first world", it is pure nonsense that seeks to excuse Americans from their role as exploiters of the rest of the world, and acting as if I'm unserious because I point out that they're literally saying that.
Edit: The argument presented wasn't "There are parts of the US that are internally exploited in a way that resembles the relationship America itself has with the third world", it's "The average Western European has better personal access to the spoils of empire in the form of a higher standard of living, so western europe is really the imperial core" and that is again literally what is being said.
Welfare states are absolutely a sign of imperial coredom, for the simple fact their continued existence implies a lack of western bombs and coup attempts, operate your analysis historically not mechanically
if France had a sudden economic crash but retained its colonial extraction it wouldn't cease to be t he imperial core.
Nobody said that, you seem to be fighting with phantoms in your head
this is just you saying "Some Americans are poor so they're not part of the first world"
Nobody said they didn't live in the first world, your hyper-moralizing is blinding you to obvious FACTS; are Native Americans not colonialized huh? Are black people not subjected to a militarized police state and systematic state depossession? Are Appalachian hollers not toxic wastelands disconnected from centralized power and resources
Stop playing punisher in your head and analyze the real conditions, an empire can indeed eat itself alive
So how does this account for statements like
The average American is an exploited colonial subject.
and
The average Western European materially benefits from the spoils of imperialism and lives a high quality life because of it.
Because those are of course literally statements that the quality of life is what makes the difference between coloniser and colonised, completely ignores any power relation, and of course directly says that the average american is exploited by an imperial machine centered around Europeans. I can read, you can read, why are you lying?
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Welfare states are absolutely a sign of imperial coredom, for the simple fact their continued existence implies a lack of western bombs and coup attempts, operate your analysis historically not mechanically
Ok well my historical analysis tells me that the US didn't neglect to distribute its superprofits to its population because it feared being nuked by the US.
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Never seen that idea before.
It's just a restatement of uneven development made in such a way that Americans can pretend they're fucking third worlders for living in Florida or something. This is genuinely embarrassing
Incorrect, uneven development is the later liberal version of the idea, but the original theory is older, emerging as an expansion of Kwame Nkrumah’s Neo-Colonialism theory from 1965
It's complimentary to most versions of Third Worldism and neo-Colonial theory and in fact forms the bedrock on most developments of those tendencies
BE SO SERIOUS RIGHT NOW
Hexbear: Read settlers
Also Hexbear: Have you considered that in a way Californians are victims of colonialism and the people of Dallas must rise up against their Dutch oppressors.
Settlers is literally a doomer reformulation of Internal Colonialism Theory LMAO STOP GOOFING
stop goofing
OK but what if california is Korea and Montana is actually like Africa or something and western Europe is the imperial core but America isn't.
How about you.
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The US is not a colony. The US is simply the militaristic (Fascist) arm of Capital, making the shift from the pacifist stage (Social Democrat) after the new deal era. Much of Europe is still in the Pacifying era, though this seemingly is ending itself with their rising focus on military/war, Immigration, and weakening of their social programs.
The average Americans live under terrible conditions specifically due to the higher degree of developed capital leading to a higher degree of monopolization of that capital. (As evidenced by so many of the richest people being Americans).
We don't need to try an place everything under a colonialist framing.
US is imperial core. It’s just that the whole labor-aristocracy thing has been greatly exaggerated. Whenever I hear that I just want to ask them if they’ve ever been to Philly or Baltimore or NYC or LA or Portland or… or, or. There is so much poverty in the US, and its visibility is a feature - a warning to the proletariat who barely clasp a semblance of an income.
The economy in the US is highly financialized, this is true. But the fact that this is nevertheless necessary labor is demonstrated by 1) the fact that it is hired at all in private industry, 2) the profound aggression by which the state fights unions and other collective efforts.
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