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"We can just vote our way into making it work!" 😁🙄 (lemmy.ml)

submitted 1 week ago by jackeroni@lemmy.ml to c/memes@lemmy.ml

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[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 6 days ago

Libs when voting for the "lesser evil"

this is fine

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Just vote blue no matter who[^1].

[^1]: Some, restrictions, apply.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Neolibs are the ones who pushed Harris to capture the conservative vote.

We’re finally starting the age of the progressives.

[+] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz -7 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I know, let's vote for hell on earth instead. That'll surely clean things right up.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 17 points 6 days ago

Voting is a very small part of what the average person can do to use their political power.

[–] Commiunism@beehaw.org 14 points 6 days ago

I mean, even this kind of argument doesn't really work in reality. We already live in "hell on earth", and via electorialism usually two choices are given: the progressive "nothing ever happens" option (so your socdems, democrats, you'll be lucky to get a good policy or two but no real change to the status quo) or "literally hitler" option, maybe some parties that stand in the middle of the spectrum if the country is "advanced" enough.

In other words, via electorialism you can either preserve the hell on earth or make it worse, and the process of voting legitimizes this status quo as it's what "people have decided" rather than who the ruling class cast as candidates, who had the most money and media influence for campaigning.

It's important to see electorialism for what it truly is.

[–] Saymaz@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 6 days ago

Oh dear, the shitlibs are still using the 'lesser evil' argument!

[–] jackeroni@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The "Hell on Earth" is just yet more capitalist/empire propaganda to scare you into thinking exactly this so you keep voting for the uniparty

[–] Takapapatapaka@tarte.nuage-libre.fr -2 points 6 days ago

Or maybe the uniparty is a bad enough option so you keep not voting for it and allowing Hell On Earth instead. Fuck em both, but let's stop pretending we are superior for not voting, that's not the point.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 week ago

Neoliberalism is all about creating hell on earth

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=False_dichotomy

[–] Hirom@beehaw.org -3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Depending on the context, this may or may not be a false dichotomy.

If considering the act of voting in an election in a country with a two party system, each with a different shade of neoliberalism, then there are two choices realistically, and picking the lesser evil is a decent moral choice.

If considering other countries or primaries where there are more than two options polling above 2%, then it'd be a false dichotomy.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 11 points 6 days ago

The reason it's a false dichotomy is because the implicit point of the OP is that revolution is necessary. The original commenter either didn't pick that up or ignored it, centering voting as the primary means of political engagement without addressing the point raised by the OP.