this post was submitted on 02 Jul 2025
271 points (94.4% liked)

Fuck AI

3507 readers
369 users here now

"We did it, Patrick! We made a technological breakthrough!"

A place for all those who loathe AI to discuss things, post articles, and ridicule the AI hype. Proud supporter of working people. And proud booer of SXSW 2024.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
all 28 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 96 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Good. I love to hear about outages. Really wish all data centers would implode so we can be rid of this shit.

[–] brem@lemmy.world 32 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Once dead internet finishes manifesting, it'll be simply bots shilling & scamming themselves. The data centers will cease to feed the greedy pigs and will be left for the rats. However, the product will have no time to rejoice for we will already have become addicted to the next big thing.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

And by "rats," you mean me. Me and my crowbar are ready and waiting to get our hands on a bunch of abandoned server hardware, especially those racks and racks of hard drives.

Think of how much pirated anime you could fit a couple of those arrays!

[–] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I work in one of those AI data centers. Remarkably little storage. And the servers are astonishingly specialized for the job. Not to mention power hungry. I'd much rather have a gen10 Proliant. Or a few NUCs and a qnap.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They really don't need storage except for the models and training data right? And most of that isnt theirs to begin with so why store it?

[–] brem@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

The less you have, the less you are burdened by.

This concept also applies to nefarious or predatory activities in the name of big daddy dollar or count currency.

[–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 6 points 2 weeks ago

They have different data centers for storage (AI doesn't need much), but you're right, it's all unbelievably specialized to the point of being basically useless for any purpose that it wasn't specifically designed for. We really have been spoiled with how general purpose our computing infrastructure has been up until now. That's simply not how things are scaling up anymore.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So all that breathless reporting I've been reading lately about how the AI boom is causing a hard drive shortage is bullshit just like the AIs themselves? Can't say as I'm surprised one way or the other.

[–] brem@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

It gets pretty crazy when it comes to storage.

A very profitable product in any format. Humans like collecting stuff.

[–] Tenthrow@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

One Hundred Percent THIS ^^^

[–] SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Well, there's no harm in dreaming.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This article is from June 11th. Why are you posting it here now?

[–] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Not everyone is perpetually online budd, 1st time hearing about it

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 22 points 2 weeks ago

Also this is not a news article, it's an opinion essay. It's perfectly reasonable to read this at any time.

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

So firstly, shut up, nerd. You’ve clearly never worked a corporate job and don’t understand the compulsion to in-house nothing.

I WISH. Would have saved so much headache from rolling our own framework for the millionth time instead of using standard solution that already exists... Tell me you've never worked in corporate software without telling me you've never worked in corporate software.

Secondly, approximately 0.0% of chatbot users will ever run an LLM at home.

Wut. Individual models on huggingface have monthly downloads in the hundreds of thousands... Just Deepseek R1 was downloaded 550,000 times in the last month alone. Gemma 3n was downloaded over 120,000 times in the last 7 days.

Thirdly, it’s slow as hell even on a top-end home Nvidia card — and the data centre cards are expensive.

They literally run well on mobile phones and laptops lol.

The author is desperately grasping at straws at best, intentionally making up false claims at worst... either way, they aren't qualified to write on this subject.

[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

LocalLMs run pretty good on a 12GB RTX 2060. They're pretty cheap, if a bit rare now.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So 12GB is what you need?

Asking because my 4GB card clearly doesn't cut it 🙍🏼‍♀️

[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

4GB card can run smol models, bigger ones require an nvidia and lots of system RAM, and performance will be proportionally worse by VRAM / DRAM usage balance.

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

require an nvidia

Big models work great on macbooks or AMD GPUs or AMD APUs with unified memory

[–] CrayonDevourer@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Not only that, but the "They spent $2 for every $1"...

Yeah, that doesn't account for the $20/hr middle management job that they don't have to pay for another 5 meetings this week with a poor powerpoint presentation. Of course they're spending to make their company as competitive as possible. And sure, AI hallucinates, but have you seen MAGA fanatics? I've seen a 1b parameter model hallucinate less than that. And they have jobs -- and VOTE...

[–] faberfedor@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, screw this guy. I came across him on YT. He goes out of his way to paint all AI as if it were an ineffectual, hype-only, resource hog with absolutely no redeeming qualities being foisted on us by EvilCorps everywhere who are simultaneously too dumb to know that it’s a farce.

What told me he was just going for eyeballs (gotta admit, his marketing is good! I see this mofo everywhere these days) was a YT post about a grift — that predates AI — which used AI and he blamed AI for the grift! Not the human, but the technology.

[–] redlemace@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

Didn't notice nor heard of it until this post. So they missed a day learning/training AI?

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Luddites smashed looms...

Eco Activists block pipeline construction...

...

But I'm sure massive AI datacenters will be totally safe, while sucking water and energy out of the environs at an absurd pace.

[–] AmazingAwesomator@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago

...you could run an open source model in-house.” So firstly, shut up, nerd.

uuuh... tech companies roll their own shit all the time......