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Hi! Got an issue I couldn't figure out

When I use /etc/fstab to automount an SMB share using CIFS, I cannot unmount it without root privileges. If I mount it manually (as a non-privileged user), everything works just fine.

Also, an application I mount the share for (Pika Backup, based on borg) cannot access backups unless I unmount the share with root privileges and then mount it back manually.

A respective line in /etc/fstab is: //address/directory /mnt/backup cifs credentials=...,user,auto,iocharset=utf8 0 2

Highlighted user option to make it clear I didn't forget it.

Any advice?

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[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The option you're looking for is users, not user.

user makes it so that any user can mount, but only the same user can unmount. Meaning, since root is mounting it on boot, root has to be the one to unmount it, too.

users allows any user to mount, and any user to unmount.

Not sure what's on going with Pika. Who mounts the share shouldn't matter, as the folder permissions should be the same regardless.

Do you have a uid option set?

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It worked, you nailed it! So, the problem was that with automount it was root that was mounting, which ended up breaking permissions. As a result, I could not unmount the drive, and Pika couldn't do backups. After setting the uid, it started to work properly as it began mounting under my name. As such, changing user to users was not required. But now I know the difference, so thank you anyway!

Case closed, and thank you again.

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Ah. That's right. You need to use the uid as the network share doesn't have permissions the way a local partition would. Normally it's unneeded, as the drive, folder and file permissions are set on the drive, and those are the ones that matter once it is mounted.

Note that the uid only sets access permissions. It does not actually mount the share as you, so you'll still need to be root to unmount it, unless you change user to users.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago

Aha, caught that one, and indeed, you are right. Unmounts correctly now!

[–] who@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Have you considered replacing auto with noauto, and creating a .desktop file in ~/.config/autostart/ to run the mount command when you log in?

I do this, and it allows me to unmount (and mount again later) as myself rather than as root.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Should work, though MentalEdge proposed a more elegant solution. All it took was setting uid in /etc/fstab.

Maybe it could help you, too?

Thanks anyway for your response!

[–] who@feddit.org 2 points 1 week ago

I have a more complex setup than I described, making that approach a poor fit, but thanks for thinking of me. Glad you found a solution. :)