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Each time I try AMD graphics, something is fucked for me. Back with fglrx, fglrx just sucked, so I used Nvidia. Then I had an AMD right around when they finally had opensource drivers, but it was still buggy as hell. So I went with Nvidia again (first a GTX 790, then a GTX 1060). In the meantime I had a new work notebook where I also went with an AMD APU, and had driver crashes for a long time when I was in video calls and it had to decode multiple streams. That thankfully stabilized with Linux 6.4.

Since sooo many people in the community swear by AMD, I thought "dammit, let's try it again for my new desktop" and got an 7800rx ... and I have to reboot ~5 times until I finally make it to a running xserver or wayland session. Apparently I am hit by this problem (at least I hope so). But that doesn't even read nice ... the fix seems to be to revert another fix for powermanagement. So I either have a mostly non-booting card or suboptimal power management.

I start to regret having chosen AMD .... again :-/ I seem to be cursed.

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[–] Fredol@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

the most bug-free gpu experience I have with Linux is Nvidia GPU + KDE X11 with compositor disabled. Pure bliss. I've had a 6700XT and it was terrible too, now I have a 4070. For my laptops, intel igpu works decently well with wayland KDE, but there are few bugs, like having to clear some apps gpucache (vscode) quite often

[–] aksdb@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

At least with my 1060 compositing wasn't an issue. But true, I rarely used Wayland. Do you have specific issues when compositing is enabled or do you just prefer the simpler rendering?

[–] Fredol@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

I prefer without for the aesthetics but also for functionality: compositing x11 with multi monitors of different refresh rates is still broken, everything becomes locked at 60hz instead of the max for each monitor.

[–] loaExMachina@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Using amd GX 6600... Mostly going fine, tho I haven't tried any big heavy games. One thing tho... Everytime I turn on my computer, no display. I reboot it and then ot works fine, but ot never does the first time. One path I'll investigate is the monitor: my monitors are both older and use DVI or VGA ports, so I have to use converters. I might try and get my hand on a more recent monitor to see if I still get the same problem. But if I do, I'm not even sure where to ask. I don't even think it's a linux problem, because I tried removing my drive with linux living one with windows and the problem remains. I also was using mint when the problem started and switched to Arch (btw) since and it doesn't change a thing.

[–] cevn@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I had a similar problem which was resolved by disabling the motherboard integrated graphics in bios settings.

[–] loaExMachina@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Thank you ! It didn't seem to work on it's own, but I also noticed I wasn't booting in EFI mode, so maybe if I just change my booting partition and combine it with your advice it'll work...

[–] cevn@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Mine went back to no display only on boot, so I guess it didnt work for me either :( good luck tho!!

[–] loaExMachina@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

Aw, too bad :( Good luck to you as well, tho! I've bookmarked your comment, so I'll be back to tell you if I find the solution, however long it takes!

[–] loaExMachina@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I still haven't found the solution, have you had any luck with yours?

I tried switching every UEFI setting that seemed to have something to do with booting or gpus, reinstalled gpu bios, upgrading mobo bios, getting a monitor I could plug without a switch... All to no avail.

Well, I think before upgrading the BIOS, one thing had a slightly different result: Setting the boot mode to UEFI and disabling CSM made it display "no gop (graphic output protocol)" after a few minutes, and it offered to either take me to the uefi settings or loading defaults (which implied going back to CSM), after which it boot this time go back to doing the same thing.

I don't think I've had this error since the mobo bios upgrade, but still no display unless I reboot, unless the computer had been turned in until recently. I'm kinda out of ideas...

[–] cevn@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

…unfortunately no.. I work around it by knowing what buttons to press but it’s pretty stupid.

[–] anteaters@feddit.de 1 points 9 months ago

Update: today I was able to update to kernel 6.7.5 and the issue disappeared for me.

[–] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

Ohh, so that's the bug I've been experiencing ever since Fedora 39 updated to kernel 6.7. But I only get this on restarts, so cold starts work just fine. I actually have a 7800 XT as well.

But other than that I only noticed one issue: video playback in Firefox sometimes shows visual artifacts across the screen while a game is running in the background (well, with Baldur's Gate 3 at least). Fedora 39, KDE Plasma. Kernel 6.6 or 6.7 (or 6.5 for that matter). That said I also had some suboptimal experiences with browser video playback on an AMD APU notebook under Windows (severe framedrops), so I'm not sure where to point my fingers at.

Other than that it's honestly been great. I switched from Windows + Nvidia to Linux + AMD basically January 1st of this year and only ever booted Windows twice to transfer game saves over for the few games that don't have Steam Cloud.

Turns out most of the problems I had with Linux desktop was with Nvidia. I spent more time troubleshooting than actually using software. AMD isn't perfect on Linux and with new kernel versions you're suspect to run into more issues, but AMD (and Intel) mostly work out of the box.

[–] kbal@fedia.io 1 points 9 months ago

I don't know if you've tried it yet, but having recently installed 6.7.3 I noticed a whole lot of amdgpu fixes in the changelog. Maybe it will help?

[–] captainjaneway@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (15 children)

I've had similar issues. I don't understand the love for AMD. My whole rig is AMD, but it's constantly having GPU crashes. All games run at high FPS and my CPU temps seem nominal. But the games will crash. Everything from RimWorld to Baldurs Gate 3. They all run pinned at 60fps but randomly crash. I've tried a thousand different configurations and drivers. I've tried Ubuntu and Linux Mint. I'm now just accepting that I can't rely on it as a gaming rig. I like that AMD is trying to be progressive with open source drivers but the quality doesn't seem to be there. My next rig might be Nvidia and Intel. But we will see.

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