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Is it a good enough solution for IMEI tracking to use an alternative device to provide a hotspot connection?

This approach appears to protect any new device that hasn't inserted a SIM card from being identified.

But I'm not sure how much information is carried to the second device by using hotspot.

Is this a good solution so far? Should I try to spoof IMEI?

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[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to do here. Yes, if you use a phone as a hotspot, everything going through will be associated with that hotspot phone's IMEI.

[–] happeningtofry99158@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

thanks a lot.

I am trying to keep my device IMEI information private

May I also ask how much information is carried to the second device by using hotspot? By this I meant the phone with IMEI will be able to know my device name, but what else? Will the phone with IMEI also be able to know the device model?

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I am trying to keep my device IMEI information private

By replacing it with another not-private one? For what purpose?

[–] happeningtofry99158@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

using another not-private device is just a temporary solution. In the end I would like to use a portable router that supports MAC/IMEI randomnization

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not sure how that would work. IMEI is how the carrier knows who you are and grants you network access.

[–] HelloRoot@lemy.lol 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They certainly can be spoofed or cloned.

But thats as illegal as it gets and faces serious proscecution.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It will know as much data as it would for any other wireless client. MAC address mostly.

[–] happeningtofry99158@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

thanks a lot! what about device model, is this info also sent?

[–] bad_news@lemmy.billiam.net 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You should also beware that if you use the Google Play stuff for push notifications to work (even sandboxed afaik) it will include the IMEI in the payload when it phones home to Google.

[–] happeningtofry99158@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

push notifications to work

by push notifications to work you mean?

Sandboxed Google Play is only considered an app in GrapheneOS. It shouldn't have direct access to the IMEI number unless it's explicitly granted permission.

I remember it being explained in the GrapheneOS FAQ that only the OS and the phone (dialer) app have access to the IMEI number. However, I'm not an expert, so I can't say for sure.

Could you please provide a link that confirms whether sandboxed Google Play or any app has direct access to the IMEI number? Thanks a lot!

[–] bad_news@lemmy.billiam.net 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's possible that I'm mistaken. I've seen it claimed that it still has the IMEI, but that might be inaccurate, and I don't know exactly where I saw it. I've never seen an explicit claim that it does not before now, so I'm not sure who is correct.

[–] happeningtofry99158@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

right then hopefully someone could see this post and confirm

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You should be clear about what your threat model is. What are you willing to accept? What are you willing to trade?

Using a phone only as a Wi-Fi device is probably going to reduce the information surface you exposed to the world.

[–] happeningtofry99158@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

thanks a lot

May I also ask how much information is carried to the second device by using hotspot? By this I meant the phone with IMEI will be able to know my device name, but what else? Will the phone with IMEI also be able to know the device model?